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iOliverC · Nov 1, 2003, 07:47 AM

Well, I just installed CS and I have to say, Adobe has tried to make the installer feel more OS X-like. I was hoping it used Apples Installer.app but it turns out they still use Installer VISE.

This might have been because of an upgrade, but I couldn't find an option in the installer to customize my install. I NEVER use ImageReady and would prefer it not to be installed, along with those Chinese fonts, again this might just be because I upgraded. First impressions of the app are that it seems a bit faster, the filters menu comes up quick and Gaussian Blur seems fast on big images.

Also, I think ALL text is now smoothed, even on the Adobe tabs. And there is also a new 'New Document' menu, which I think is a big step down. Over-all, the upgrade wasn't as big as say 5.0 to 6.0, maybe a 7.5, but certainly no 8.0. Oh and the file browser which I never used in 7.0, I will never use in 8.0. Its such a Windows port, the menu is on the top and its just ugh. I'll play with it some more.

sray · 11:36 AM

Originally posted by iOliverC:
Over-all, the upgrade wasn't as big as say 5.0 to 6.0, maybe a 7.5, but certainly no 8.0. Oh and the file browser which I never used in 7.0, I will never use in 8.0. Its such a Windows port, the menu is on the top and its just ugh. I'll play with it some more.

Whether or not you appreciate the huge difference between CS and 7.0 depends on what you do with Photoshop.

In my opinion it's a HUGE jump from 7.0 to CS because:

1) Core engine had to be rewritten to go from supporting 30kx30k pixel canvas to 300kx300k pixel canvas

2) 16bit support everywhere is absolutely huge if you have digital cameras that spit out everything in 16 bits. I can finally edit in 16 bits without getting a messed up histogram (more elbow room at either ends of the spectrum)

3) The new File Browser + Camera RAW built-in is a god-send. Previously, I had to use the crappy software from Nikon to edit my RAW files and then use another equally crappy software from Canon to edit my assistants canon RAW files. Now I can throw all the Nikon + Canon RAW files into one directory and edit them together. I can quickly flag the good stuff and pull them up and apply the same correction across multiple pictures. What a time saver (not to mention avoiding the aggravation of using buggy Nikon/Canon software)

4) Color Match feature means I can finally assure color consistency across multiple studio shots without having to manually fiddle with every picture

5) Live histograms and color filters allow me to work much more efficiently. The amount of time I save by watching the histograms while applying filters is a significant benefit

6) Gang up layers as comp sets means I don't have to create multiple versions of the same file to show to different people.

7) Videographers finally have non-square pixels to work on anamorphic images. No more changing the canvas around to see what it will look like. I can't believe we had to wait this long for this.

And these are just features that appeal to me. What about all the features I haven't even gotten too?

Seriously, this is the biggest jump in features for Photoshop ever. And with my NAPP coupon, the upgrade was only $109.

SoCal_BigFoot · Nov 1, 2003, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by sray:

4) Color Match feature means I can finally assure color consistency across multiple studio shots without having to manually fiddle with every picture

I'm afraid this might be much less serious feature you'd expect.
But there is another one which seems to be great - shadows and highlights adjustment,
created by the healing brush team.

Nebagakid · Nov 1, 2003, 10:43 AM

i ordered mine from Studica.com
but it has not been "released yet by Adobe" for them for some reason...

dr. zoidberg · Nov 1, 2003, 12:36 PM

how's the performance? any better? exporting for web any snappier?

voodoo · Nov 1, 2003, 01:06 PM

Are there still some sloppy carbonization effects like save panels that just pop up in the middle of the screen instead of sliding down the appropriate window?

iOliverC · Nov 1, 2003, 01:31 PM

Save panels appear in a dialog, not the standard sheet (I think).

I don't think Adobe have even touched the Save For Web panel, it seems just as slow.

Landos Mustache · Nov 1, 2003, 01:52 PM

I head a nasty rumor that it still doesn't support more then 2 Gigs of RAM which is a real bitch for us G5 owners who bought a ton of RAM and the top of the line system just for Photoshop.

sanity assassin · Nov 1, 2003, 04:22 PM

I got it yesterday, and must say I'm quite impressed, the upgrade was worth it, but I can see why it might not be considered a full version update number.

I'm on a Pismo 400 running Panther, and the app just feels so smooth, haven't really pushed it yet, but just the responsiveness is very welcome.

Let me know if you'd like to see any screenshots.

voodoo · Nov 1, 2003, 05:01 PM

The main feature Adobe CS has for me is that it supports Unicode. Which is great!

sanity assassin · Nov 1, 2003, 05:28 PM

Not sure if this was in 7, but in the save for web window, there's now an option for WBMP.

Yves · Nov 1, 2003, 05:38 PM

Can you please post some screenshots ?

sanity assassin · Nov 1, 2003, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Yves:
Can you please post some screenshots ?

Here you go.

Yves · Nov 1, 2003, 07:11 PM

Thank you for the fast reply ! Great screenshots !

Worst. Episode. Ever. · Nov 1, 2003, 07:30 PM

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where did you get that awesome desktop picture?

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sanity assassin · Nov 1, 2003, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Worst. Episode. Ever.:
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where did you get that awesome desktop picture?

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Hi,

The one with the Panther X? I think it was done by I'm da MAc, in his Panther Pro theme.

Here's the link.

http://members.cox.net/damac519/themes.html

It's a cracker of an image.

sanity assassin · Nov 1, 2003, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Yves:
Thank you for the fast reply ! Great screenshots !

No probs. let me know if you'd like to see anything specific.

Yves · 08:12 PM

Can you show some screenshots of the new histogram ? Do you have screenshots of imageready also ?

Eug Wanker · Nov 1, 2003, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
I head a nasty rumor that it still doesn't support more then 2 Gigs of RAM which is a real bitch for us G5 owners who bought a ton of RAM and the top of the line system just for Photoshop.

Well, it's still a big bonus to have extra memory.

Even if Photoshop can only use 2 GB, if you've got more, there is more available that Photoshop can use. ie. if you have 1.5 GB, Photoshop only gets about 1 GB, depending on what you having running. If you have 3 GB, Photoshop can have a full 2 GB.

But yeah, given the size of images these days, it's unfortunate that it is still limited to 2 GB, esp. Panther can support 4 GB per app.

Landos Mustache · Nov 2, 2003, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Well, it's still a big bonus to have extra memory.

Even if Photoshop can only use 2 GB, if you've got more, there is more available that Photoshop can use. ie. if you have 1.5 GB, Photoshop only gets about 1 GB, depending on what you having running. If you have 3 GB, Photoshop can have a full 2 GB.

But yeah, given the size of images these days, it's unfortunate that it is still limited to 2 GB, esp. Panther can support 4 GB per app.

Ya I know but if I had 4 gigs and was using Photoshop all day I would be unhappy that it could only use half of it.

Sometime I only have photoshop running just so it can eat all the RAM it wants so things don't get painfully slow.

sanity assassin · Nov 2, 2003, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by Yves:
Can you show some screenshots of the new histogram ? Do you have screenshots of imageready also ?

Of course, no probs.
I'm not a big ImageReady user, but anything you'd like to see in particular, just let me know.

Cs is looking really good, especially on my lowly machine, it's cleaner, faster, and much more enjoyable to use s