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Any idea when the new Norton SystemWorks will be out?
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One that would be compatible with Panther? Do you think that it would be just a download, or would I have to purchase a new copy?
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Originally posted by Ryan Heid:
One that would be compatible with Panther? Do you think that it would be just a download, or would I have to purchase a new copy?
WHY?
Oh well, shoot your self in the *** with something that's not necessary and creates more problems than it solves.
Defragmenter and Virus protector are COMPLETELY worthless on OS X.
Completely.
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What would you use for virus protection or a defragmenting utility for OS X?
What about a disk repair utility? Would you just use Disk Utility?
No need to be a jerk, man. I'm just trying to ask a question. You know, not all people are as smart as you think you are. 
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Originally posted by Ryan Heid:
What would you use for virus protection or a defragmenting utility for OS X?
What about a disk repair utility? Would you just use Disk Utility?
No need to be a jerk, man. I'm just trying to ask a question. You know, not all people are as smart as you think you are.
I would not use virus protection. There are no known viruses for the Mac. Just be careful with what you open in emails.
And defragmenters? Why would you need one? Panther does some defragmentation by default And defragmentation these days is really "snake oil." Really. People that worked at Symantec who left have admitted it's fairly worthless these days.
For disk repair... Tech Tool Pro is good. But, I'd recommend it for reactive repairs rather than proactive. Personally, I'd do regular (say, weekly) backups, and NEVER run a disk repair utility unless something really bad happened (and then recall I had a backup!).
Do a search on Symantec. Really. It causes more problems than it fixes. Same as many disk utilities. They're not necessary, and the chances that you'll screw something up when "trying to ensure nothing ever goes wrong" are way higher than something actually going wrong.
Just make regular backups ;-)
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Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity...
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Alright, thanks for the info guys! 
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Originally posted by Sven G:
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Yeah, Norton could indeed be much better - but also DiskWarrior and TechTool Pro have their share of problems...
All the more reason I say they're not necessary (or even recommended) for "preventive" maintenance. Keep backups, and avoid the endless optimization/tinkering trap trying to make the Mac work "better."
Probably 90% of all problems people have with Mac software and updates relate to 3rd party "optimization" utilities. TTP and Drive 10 are great if something goes wrong, but I keep good backups and if something hits the fan and it's a physical drive issue I just chuck the drive and put in a new one and restore from backup. These days drives have an MTBF upwards of 500,000 hours so it's a rarity if they don't get too hot.
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