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Apr 26, 2010, 05:35 PM
 
Ha, LOL, police shot themselves in the foot.

But doing an illegal search, all information obtained will be automatically dismissed in court.

They gained nothing, and potentially lost valuable information.

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Apr 26, 2010, 05:38 PM
 
Is this police action possibly at Apple's urging?

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Apr 26, 2010, 06:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Ha, LOL, police shot themselves in the foot.

But doing an illegal search, all information obtained will be automatically dismissed in court.

They gained nothing, and potentially lost valuable information.

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I haven't read what he's accused of? I'm assuming he's not just in trouble for "refusing to disclose the source of any information procured while blabla". The search warrant is probably invalid under that law, if we don't know what he actually is being taken down for, it's hard to say?

o wait, this is all a publicity stunt anyway. iphone 4G sales, here we come!
     
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Apr 26, 2010, 06:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Ha, LOL, police shot themselves in the foot.

But doing an illegal search, all information obtained will be automatically dismissed in court.

They gained nothing, and potentially lost valuable information.
No journalist is protected against charges of fencing stolen goods, AFAIK.
     
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Apr 26, 2010, 07:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
No journalist is protected against charges of fencing stolen goods, AFAIK.
Doesn't matter. If the evidence is obtained unlawfully, it can't be used in a court of law.

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Apr 26, 2010, 07:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by scottiB View Post
Police seize Jason Chen of Gizmodo's computers:

Police Seize Jason Chen's Computers - Iphone 4 leak - Gizmodo
Let's hope they don't find any kiddie porn on those computers.

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Apr 26, 2010, 07:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
Is this police action possibly at Apple's urging?
This article is positing that, or at least showing a coincidence:

What is Apple Inc.'s role in task force investigating iPhone case? - Yahoo! News
     
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Apr 26, 2010, 07:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Doesn't matter. If the evidence is obtained unlawfully, it can't be used in a court of law.

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There was nothing unlawful about the search warrant and confiscations made.

Gawker quoted Section 1070, which prohibits search warrants against journalists on grounds of being "adjudged in contempt … for refusing to disclose … the source of any information procured while so connected or employed for publication".

Whatever that has to do with knowingly purchasing stolen goods, God only knows.

This search is not about revealing who stole the phone (and it *is* stolen according to Cali law); it's about determining that Chen (and his employers) must have known that the item his corporation was willing to pay $5000 for (by their own admission) was stolen, or at least failed to take even the most basic measures to verify that it hadn't been.
     
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Apr 27, 2010, 02:35 AM
 
Heh. Where's what's his name with the badge-kisser tirade

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Apr 27, 2010, 02:15 PM
 
Does a blog like Gizmodo count as a journalist?
     
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Apr 27, 2010, 02:37 PM
 
I think that the quoted section that Gawker is using to try to dispute covers all sorts of publication types. Doesn't need to be a traditional journalist I suppose. I certainly don't consider Gizmodo to be a traditional journalist publication. They are the tabloid of the gadget blog world, in my opinion.
     
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Apr 27, 2010, 03:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
Does a blog like Gizmodo count as a journalist?
Like Gizmodo? Yes. Gizmodo themselves? No. They're almost as bad as TechCrunch.

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Apr 27, 2010, 11:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dictonary.com
jour·nal·ism: the occupation of reporting, writing, editing, photographing, or broadcasting news or of conducting any news organization as a business.
Yes, Gawker employs journalists. Not liking how they choose to practice journalism doesn't make them not journalists.
     
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May 12, 2010, 07:38 AM
 
Another test/pre production unit has got out, and been taken apart

Next generation iPhone unscrewed from Vietnam (update: video!) -- Engadget
Fourth generation iPhone teardown reveals A4 microprocessor -- Engadget

It has a micro sim card
A4 processor of some kind
No screws on the bottom
This one is 16GB capacity

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May 12, 2010, 08:08 AM
 
Doesn't look like that rumored 960x640 screen though.
     
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May 12, 2010, 08:43 AM
 
I'm a little surprised that there's still going to be a 16gb model.
     
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May 12, 2010, 08:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
I'm a little surprised that there's still going to be a 16gb model.
Same here. Unless it's meant to replace the 8GB 3G on the low-end.

However, since this is just a prototype we're not certain they will actually ship it. Recall the 4GB 5G iPod nano.
     
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May 12, 2010, 09:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
However, since this is just a prototype we're not certain they will actually ship it. Recall the 4GB 5G iPod nano.
That one was sold for quite a while, but it was just a stopgap until Flash shortages eased out.
     
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May 12, 2010, 09:36 AM
 
I'm hoping the largest model tops out at 64g. I'd like to be able to put as much on it as I do my iPad.

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May 12, 2010, 09:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by ajprice View Post
Another test/pre production unit has got out, and been taken apart

Next generation iPhone unscrewed from Vietnam (update: video!) -- Engadget
Fourth generation iPhone teardown reveals A4 microprocessor -- Engadget

It has a micro sim card
A4 processor of some kind
No screws on the bottom
This one is 16GB capacity
I'm not normally skeptical, but there's something fishy about this with that "inferno" screen that doesn't do ANYTHING. I'm not convinced. Someone familiar with the hardware guts of the iphone/ipad should be able to discern what's going on here...
     
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May 12, 2010, 10:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by scaught View Post
I'm not normally skeptical, but there's something fishy about this with that "inferno" screen that doesn't do ANYTHING. I'm not convinced. Someone familiar with the hardware guts of the iphone/ipad should be able to discern what's going on here...
I can't recall where I read about it, but that inferno is designed to test screen burn-in time.
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May 12, 2010, 10:33 AM
 
I just don't understand how the hell these phones keep getting into other people's hands. I've been wondering if Steve will joke about all the leaks at the keynote.
     
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May 12, 2010, 01:04 PM
 
In the video, it looked briefly to me like the lock switch was fiddly and badly aligned.

Worst nightmare: this thing is not an Apple iPhone, but a clone based on Gizmodo's stolen one.
     
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May 12, 2010, 01:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by MacinTommy View Post
I just don't understand how the hell these phones keep getting into other people's hands. I've been wondering if Steve will joke about all the leaks at the keynote.
I think he will just make a joke about it as I remember he did that once on previous leak a few years ago. "Here is the new thingamajig. You may have seen it".
     
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May 12, 2010, 01:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
I'm a little surprised that there's still going to be a 16gb model.
I'm thinking it might just be the new $99 model if anything although it kinda cheapens the image to me if the $99 cheapo 3G replacement looks and acts just like my maxed out (hopefully 64 gig) $300 version
     
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May 12, 2010, 01:31 PM
 
The $300 64GB version will be white. No mix-ups.
     
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May 12, 2010, 03:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Worst nightmare: this thing is not an Apple iPhone, but a clone based on Gizmodo's stolen one.
That's what I'm thinking at this point.
     
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May 12, 2010, 03:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Worst nightmare: this thing is not an Apple iPhone, but a clone based on Gizmodo's stolen one.
pretty impressive clone if it's got an A4 chip inside.
     
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May 12, 2010, 03:17 PM
 
I think Spheric is right. This looks more and more like a clone of the phone featured in the Gizmodo article.

The IR receiver in the device tree is interesting.


That's a full sized SIM card slot. Not a micro.

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May 12, 2010, 10:53 PM
 
Man I'm still not diggin those seams. I really hope they make it unibody in shipping unit.

Unless they are conceding to the users who want a removable battery. If so, for shame!

And then there's the possibility that these are both bogus and we get something completely different. Ooohh it's like trying to figure out how Lost is gonna end! <giggles>
     
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May 12, 2010, 10:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by ::maroma:: View Post
And then there's the possibility that these are both bogus and we get something completely different. Ooohh it's like trying to figure out how Lost is gonna end! <giggles>
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Steve delays the next iPhone release so that Apple can redesign the shell ... just to spite everyone who dared look at it before Steve holds it up on stage for all to behold in wonder at his mastery.
     
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May 13, 2010, 04:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
pretty impressive clone if it's got an A4 chip inside.
Exactly my thoughts.

     
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Originally Posted by ::maroma:: View Post
Man I'm still not diggin those seams.
Same here. Unless I get something out of it (like simple battery replacement - which I'm pretty sure won't happen) I want them gone.
     
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May 13, 2010, 12:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Exactly my thoughts.

What about a pic of some chips sitting on a towel convinces you?
     
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May 13, 2010, 01:19 PM
 
Because the numbers on that chip are almost identical to what the iPad has? But that's obviously not an iPad logic board.

If this is a clone, then it's a pretty excellent one, to be running some version of OS 4.0, and to appear to have better build quality.
     
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May 13, 2010, 04:00 PM
 
those may or may not be the guts of the new iphone. I doubt they have anything to do with whatever was shown in that new video.
     
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May 13, 2010, 04:35 PM
 
What? So somebody just found an A4 and put it in a shape that looks similar to what Gizmodo found?
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Because the numbers on that chip are almost identical to what the iPad has? But that's obviously not an iPad logic board.

If this is a clone, then it's a pretty excellent one, to be running some version of OS 4.0, and to appear to have better build quality.
Yep, if it's a clone, I'll buy one.
     
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May 14, 2010, 04:49 AM
 
iPhone image metadata hints at more cameras on the next iPhone


iPhone OS 4.0 systems label the camera as a 'Back Camera' in image metadata, the inference being that if there is a 'Back Camera', then there must be another camera on the new handset, ie. 'Front Camera'.

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What? So somebody just found an A4 and put it in a shape that looks similar to what Gizmodo found?
In my estimation, the vietnam iphone/video/etc is a fake/clone/whatever. Further, there is nothing in their presentation that links the video of that "phone" with the inferno screen with whatever pile of chips are shown sitting on a blue towel.
     
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In my estimation, the vietnam iphone/video/etc is a fake/clone/whatever. Further, there is nothing in their presentation that links the video of that "phone" with the inferno screen with whatever pile of chips are shown sitting on a blue towel.
You really think this is a clone?

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Oh boy, Gizmodo really dug themselves into a hole - add "extortion" to the list of criminal offenses:

Gizmodo e-mail to Jobs: 'We have nothing to lose' | Apple - CNET News

Jesus ****ing H. Christ.

What complete nimrod would write an e-mail like that without consulting the legal department - or even just some friend with a law degree?

That's about six levels of awesome right there.
     
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You really think this is a clone?
Slam dunk.

No, of course it's a clone. They just happened to get Apple to make them an A4 for their clone. No wait, that's not an A4. It's just a clone of an A4. With an Apple logo. To make it look more genuine.
     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Oh boy, Gizmodo really dug themselves into a hole - add "extortion" to the list of criminal offenses:

Gizmodo e-mail to Jobs: 'We have nothing to lose' | Apple - CNET News

Jesus ****ing H. Christ.

What complete nimrod would write an e-mail like that without consulting the legal department - or even just some friend with a law degree?

That's about six levels of awesome right there.
There's a rumor now (at the bottom) that Jesus Diaz has fled the country.
     
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There's a rumor now (at the bottom) that Jesus Diaz has fled the country.
There's a countering rumor (from Diaz) the he hasn't fled the country.
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iPhone OS 4.0 systems label the camera as a 'Back Camera' in image metadata, the inference being that if there is a 'Back Camera', then there must be another camera on the new handset, ie. 'Front Camera'.
The original leak (and this one as well) shows a camera on the front of the device.
     
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Oh Jesus.

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There's a countering rumor (from Diaz) the he hasn't fled the country.
Twitter / Jesus Diaz: I wish I was in Spain now. ...
As well as the rumor that Gruber is an "assclown".



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Ahahah! This is turning out to be the best story ever. I can't look away! (nor do I want to!)
     
 
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