[cvbcvb]

Who believes this?:

http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/...rveillance.htm

CVB

[Cold Warrior]

I don't get it. With a valid and specific warrant, ATT would be forced to comply with a request for any or all info on a cell phone, irrespective of model. So if the FBI has a valid warrant for iPhone data or RAZR data, and ATT can pull it off remotely (or siphon it to the feds as it comes to or goes from the handset), then what's the big deal?

[cvbcvb]

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior 

I don't get it. With a valid and specific warrant, ATT would be forced to comply with a request for any or all info on a cell phone, irrespective of model. So if the FBI has a valid warrant for iPhone data or RAZR data, and ATT can pull it off remotely (or siphon it to the feds as it comes to or goes from the handset), then what's the big deal?

I think the concern is the gathering of ones information regardless of a “warrant”...

CVB

[theDreamer]

Like they said in the article, this is not limited to just the iPhone, plus it has been going on for years.
*cough*red scare*cough*
We began tapping phones then (some before), and this was just landlines. With the introduction of the cell phone, government can now easily access things, but only with probable cause. Now I know anyone will say oh but they abuse it, well of course they do. You give humans power and what do they want? More power, or more control.

Really, if they wanted to look at my phone I would not be to troubled to stop them. Now if I had business data related to my company or maybe a few private emails (with personal info from friends/family), then I would be hesitant. Though the government is not going to just randomly tap into your phone and take a look, they would have a reason to before even thinking about it. Just do not give them the reason.

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by cvbcvb 

I think the concern is the gathering of ones information regardless of a “warrant”...

CVB

Certainly that's a concern, but I wouldn't say any more so with the iPhone than any other device. I think this site may be using the iPhone name to attract eyeballs to its site and to push its agenda.

[icruise]

I really hate it when the iPod (and now the iPhone) are singled out for things that apply to all products in their class. It's simply sloppy, fearmonging reporting.

[DigitalEl]

Originally Posted by icruise

I really hate it when the iPod (and now the iPhone) are singled out for things that apply to all products in their class. It's simply sloppy, fearmonging reporting.

Hack website content producer: "But if we don't include the words 'iPhone' or 'iPod' in the headline, we'll get fewer hits and nobody will Digg us."

[Visnaut]

"The idea is to use the existing PC microphone to listen to whatever is heard in the background, be it music, your phone going off or the TV turned down. The PC then identifies it, using fingerprinting, and then shows you relevant content, whether that's adverts or search results, or a chat room on the subject,"

LOL, not only is this guy some crackpot conspiracy theorist, but he also has no idea WTF he's talking about.

Identifying background sounds through "fingerprinting"? Done on the local machine? Do you realize how much computing power, and bandwidth an application like that would require? All just so they could theoretically push a text ad to you? What a load of crap.

Yeah, and I'm really going to trust some teardown done by a "a technology group in Russia".

Someone's been wearing their tinfoil hat a little too tight...

[Sherman Homan]

Phone tap warrants have been used for decades. Doesn't matter if it is an old fashioned rotary dial phone or an iPhone, the type of phone is irrelevant. But using the word iPhone is the only way these wackos could get anyone to read their silly article. The idea that your desktop mic is going to accutarely record background noise, decypher it and report back with a customized pop up is just plaing stupid. Can you imagine if you were listening to a local radio station, this conspiracy theory would have your computer creating a pop-up ad of an ad that just played!

[shifuimam]

While this may just be a conspiracy theory article, there is one thing to consider:

The iPhone (and all smart phones, for that matter) has extensive ability to actually run applications. With older cell phones, they're so limited in their functionality and "OS" that there's less concern of trojans hiding themselves, viruses corrupting data, worms spreading around a network, etc.

I would liken it to electrical features in a car - the more gadgets you have, the more likely they are to crap out. Similarly, the more advanced your phone is, the more susceptible it will be to nefarious activity taking place unbeknownst to you.

[theDreamer]

I would liken it to electrical features in a car - the more gadgets you have, the more likely they are to crap out. Similarly, the more advanced your phone is, the more susceptible it will be to nefarious activity taking place unbeknownst to you.

While that is true in considering that, but you also have to consider that with the advances though products become more reliable and more suitable to be subjected to heat/use/virus/etc. Technology advances, and becomes more complex and can be harmed in a greater way, but so is the same advances in securing it and protecting it.

[ghporter]

With the amount of press the administration's earlier warrantless searches have generated-all of it BAD for the administration-I have to think that nobody in the chain (other than at the top, perhaps) is stupid enough to go with a surveillance request that does not also include enough information to get a warrant.

And ALL the carriers can do this, though some smaller carriers will claim they don't have the technology or hardware to do it.

There are much more pressing things to think about than worrying that your new toy is more subject to illegal surveillance (which it isn't).

[butterfly0fdoom]

Originally Posted by DigitalEl 

Hack website content producer: "But if we don't include the words 'iPhone' or 'iPod' in the headline, we'll get fewer hits and nobody will Digg us."

Sad, but true. Like the "iPods are bad for your ears" thing. Or the "iPods have non-user replaceable batteries" (while true, a lot of its competitors don't have user-removeable batteries, like the Creative's current crop of iPod killers: the Zen Vision (both versions), the Zen V (both versions), and the Zen Stone (both versions)). wtfasdf. I'm sure there's more.