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phobos · Sep 7, 2007, 05:21 PM

Hello to all.
A friend of mine will be going to Canada right about the time iPod touch is released.
I will probably ask him to buy one for me but my concern is, will it work in Greece?
The voltage here is 220V in comparison to 110V in Canada.
Do I need a transformer or just a simple adaptor for the plug?

Many thanks in advance

Nexus5 · Sep 7, 2007, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by phobos

Hello to all.
A friend of mine will be going to Canada right about the time iPod touch is released.
I will probably ask him to buy one for me but my concern is, will it work in Greece?
The voltage here is 220V in comparison to 110V in Canada.
Do I need a transformer or just a simple adaptor for the plug?

Many thanks in advance

The iPod Touch comes without an power adapter, it is charged via USB. You can use the Apple USB Power Adapter which works in all countries.

nexus5.

amazing · Sep 7, 2007, 08:05 PM

I suppose the real question would be if you wanted a Greek system interface and Greek keyboard? For future resale value, perhaps? Anybody have any idea how that would work? I've heard a vague comment about adjusting the keyboard, but I'm not sure how that works?

Visnaut · Sep 7, 2007, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by amazing

I suppose the real question would be if you wanted a Greek system interface and Greek keyboard? For future resale value, perhaps? Anybody have any idea how that would work? I've heard a vague comment about adjusting the keyboard, but I'm not sure how that works?

I would assume it would be just like the iPod in that it comes with the standard bunch of languages that you choose from when you first start up the device or restore it. My 1st gen nano, for example, has the option to choose Greek, along with many others.

The question is whether Apple included all the languages that the current crop of iPods support in the new touch interface, or if it's just a subset of the more common ones. Even if it were pared down, though, I'm sure they would include it in future updates, they've been pretty good with that.

phobos · Sep 8, 2007, 01:22 AM

If the iPod touch uses the standard USB power adapter than that is excellent news. I just checked apples site and I can't find any information about voltage. I'm worried because I'll be putting 220V to a device that might only work in 110V. I'm sure it probably works on a huge range (110-220) as most electronic devices do, but I want to be absolutely sure that it will work without damaging the device. Anyone knows where to find the complete specs of iPod touch?

About the Greek system.
As I was pretty sure Greek isn't supported at the moment. But I'm sure they will add it later as a system update. That's what happened in the original iPod. It came only with English and later on they put Greek in there as well.

icruise · Sep 8, 2007, 01:33 AM

The iPhone (and presumably the touch) doesn't support any foreign languages for the interface or keyboard, but it can display quite a number of foreign languages in the browser, iPod app, contacts, etc. I'm not positive about Greek.

BRussell · Sep 8, 2007, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by icruise

The iPhone (and presumably the touch) doesn't support any foreign languages for the interface or keyboard, but it can display quite a number of foreign languages in the browser, iPod app, contacts, etc. I'm not positive about Greek.

I think the iPod touch and iPhone are very different in their international support. The iPod touch, like other iPods, is sold throughout the world and has good language support throughout. The iPhone obviously is not (yet).

iPod Touch specs:

Languages
English, French, German, Japanese, Dutch, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Danish, Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish, Korean, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Russian, and Polish

International keyboard support for English, UK English, French, German, Japanese, Dutch, Italian, Spanish, Danish, Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish, Polish, and Portuguese

Dictionary support for English, UK English, French, and German

icruise · Sep 8, 2007, 02:43 AM

I'm going to be pissed if the iPod touch supports Japanese input and the iPhone does not. Hopefully these languages will be rolled into a future update.

analogika · Sep 8, 2007, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by phobos

If the iPod touch uses the standard USB power adapter than that is excellent news. I just checked apples site and I can't find any information about voltage. I'm worried because I'll be putting 220V to a device that might only work in 110V. I'm sure it probably works on a huge range (110-220) as most electronic devices do, but I want to be absolutely sure that it will work without damaging the device. Anyone knows where to find the complete specs of iPod touch?

That won't help you, because the iPod touch is connected via USB.

The Apple iPod power supplies have run off 100V-230V since 2001. All of them.

amazing · Sep 8, 2007, 09:51 AM

It's seems extraordinary that the Touch has language support and the iPhone doesn't. How'd that happen? What're they gonna do when the iPhone is introduced to the int'l market? There's gotta be some way that language support is hidden someplace on the iPhone, don't you think? Beggars belief if it isn't on the iPhone but is on the Touch...

But just think of this: If microphone support is somewhere on the Touch, it's gonna be possible to enable it through the dock connector. That'd be the perfect wifi roaming device!

analogika · Sep 8, 2007, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by amazing

It's seems extraordinary that the Touch has language support and the iPhone doesn't. How'd that happen? What're they gonna do when the iPhone is introduced to the int'l market?

Quite simple: The iPhone is just NOT GOING TO WORK when sold abroad. See? That's how smart you are, and how dumb Apple is.

Um.

It happened quite simply: The iPod Touch is going to be introduced to the international market from the start, and the iPhone hasn't been yet.

C'mon people, this stuff isn't difficult. Apple aren't stupid. And there are no OMFG OVERSIGHT OVERSIGHT THSI IS THE END OF APPLE moments involved.

amazing · Sep 8, 2007, 10:25 AM

But that's what I mean about language support being hidden somewhere in the iPhone--and the iPhone has been destined for int'l use from the very beginning, just like the Touch. Apple's on the verge of European distribution, so it's gotta have French and German, and all the rest. Just a matter of figuring out where it's at. It'll probably magically appear with a firmware or operating system update.

Which is why I think that microphone support is somewhere in the Touch.

analogika · Sep 8, 2007, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by amazing

But that's what I mean about language support being hidden somewhere in the iPhone--and the iPhone has been destined for int'l use from the very beginning, just like the Touch. Apple's on the verge of European distribution, so it's gotta have French and German, and all the rest. Just a matter of figuring out where it's at. It'll probably magically appear with a firmware or operating system update.

Why the hell should it be on the iPhone now? OS X has completely modular and extensible language support built-in. Nothing secret about that. All that needs to happen is for the applications to contain additional .lproj folders and an interface to be built in the settings. And, of course, word recognition dictionaries and keyboard layouts. Easily downloaded into the phone via a regular software update.

There is no need to rush getting this done until the products actually ship - the iPod touch at the end of this month, and the iPhone god knows when.

phobos · Sep 8, 2007, 03:04 PM

Alright just checked my current iPod plug adapter and it has a range of 100-240V . Yahoo!!! This means that the new iPod touch will work just great in Greece!

TETENAL · Sep 8, 2007, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by amazing

But that's what I mean about language support being hidden somewhere in the iPhone--and the iPhone has been destined for int'l use from the very beginning, just like the Touch.

The iPhone has a virtual touch keyboard, did you forget that? It doesn't need language support "hidden somewhere from the beginning". All it needs is a software update to support any and arbitrary languages.