[ebolla]

i've been trying to install a unix os on my powerbook(firewire) and pm8500 but i cant seem to get a bootable cd burned from the downloaded iso
first i tried installing Darwin(using xpostfacto on the 8500) on both machines and kept getting kernal panics on the powerbook before the installer ever loaded and the 8500 never even got that far
next i tried netBSD and YD Linux but those wouldnt even begin to boot on either system

so i'm thinking that i'm in some way burning the iso images incorrectly
i just download the image from the web- mount it using disc copy and burn to cd in toast
i've tried burning in hfs hfs+ and then just dropping the image in to toast to use the default iso format
but still when i restart holding down 'c' they read the cd for a couple seconds give up and go into os9.1

or is it because i dont have a free partion avaliable on my macs?

i've probably burned ten cds total with no luck
i know i'm doing something so simple wrong
i have no experience using a unix system but thats why i'm trying to learn
help?


_eric_

[smic]

don't mount it, use toast to burn it, select either disc image or iso9660, one of them will work
at least they do for me, mounting them messes them up as far as i know

[IUJHJSDHE]

Originally posted by smic:
don't mount it, use toast to burn it, select either disc image or iso9660, one of them will work
at least they do for me, mounting them messes them up as far as i know

why does mounting them mess them up?

[smic]

i dunno?
it just does, there is no need to mount them anyways
just burn the file with toast
easy

just drag the file on the toast icon and it should just figure it out

[Secret Vampire]

Mounting bootable ISOs screws them because of the way CD boot sectors are written, the ISO image is designed to be dumped straight to CD. By mounting it you change it from raw data into a filesystem, copying the filesystem to CD then results in a copy of the files, not a copy of the CD, so the boot information isn't necessarily in the right place, if it's there at all, and when the machine checks for it, it can't find it.

[ebolla]

i tried just dragging the iso into toast and toast reads it as one file
next i tried mounting the image using toast then burning
neither way gave me a bootable cd
???
how can i get toast to burn the iso as a cd(not just a .iso file) without mounting first?

[smic]

ok sometimes draggin it on to toast doesnt always work
try opening toast and then pickin 'disk image' from the type of cd then drag the iso file to the window, and if that doesnt work try the 'iso9660' option

one of them usually works for me, but make sure it doesnt show up as a file in it, i think iso9660 will just add it as one file, instead of an iso image

yellowdog i think was funny to get to work, but i cant remember off hand, when i get home later ill write more and see what i do to get it to burn right
oh ya a couple of times the iso file didnt download right for me with yellow dog, and i had to re get it from the net again

and netbsd ive gotten and burned, but it was the i386 version, but it burnt fine in the macos

[ebolla]

BLAHH-
i tried burn from iso option in toast finally yesterday and got 2 unbootable cd's for YD and netBSD
no mounting and the cd's burned fine with all the files from the iso intact but i still couldnt boot
it all sounds so easy but i'm getting nowhere!
is it time for me to just give in and give up?:o

[smic]

ok well i found something strange, dont kow if its the same as you but...

i got redhat for my pc and burned 2 discs in os9 they worked fine, then burned the 3rd one in osx, and it wouldnt boot, tried it again, no go, booted back to 9, burned fine, so i think it could be osx, but that was just me


hope it helps you out a bit

[tooki]

Well, some ideas:

- Only Toast 5 Titanium (or Toast 4 Deluxe) can burn disc images. The Lite/Standard versions do not burn disc images.

- If you have OS X installed, you can use Disk Copy's "Burn Image..." command to make a disc from the image.

You can't mount the images before burning because that won't preserve the boot blocks.

tooki