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windows/osx 2 different clocks
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Hi, I'm using bootcamp,
In windows the date and time is correct
In OS X it isn't.
If I change the time in OS X to correct time, it messes the windows time and vice versa.
Anyone else had this problem ?
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- K
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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It is late... Yep this is normal, as OS-X assumes the internal clock is always Universal Time (and then adds/subtract your timezone), whilst Windows does not, or something like that. I do not care (as it is only 1 hour off for me).
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I'm-a trying to wonder, wonder, wonder why you, wonder, wonder why you act so.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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why not set windows to use a network time server?
also do the same for os x
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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OSX requires the hardware clock to bet set to UTC, while Windows requires the hardware clock be set to local time. You can debate which is better until you're blue in the face, but the best solution is just to run an ntp client on startup on each platform.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Originally Posted by Blasphemy
why not set windows to use a network time server?
also do the same for os x
The problem is that Windows expects the hardware clock to be set to local time, and if you use a network time server inside Windows to set the time, it will SET THE HARDWARE CLOCK IN YOUR MAC TO LOCAL TIME. It's a fundamental difference in how the *nix-based OSs handle time versus Windows (which still clings to pre-network, pre-communication, single-user, single task underpinnings).
I had thought that this was addressed and corrected in one of the Boot Camp updates...with version 1.1 in fact. Our discussions here in this thread seemed to indicate it. So how, with the current version, did they UNdo the fix?
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Well it's 10 hours difference for me, which can be messy for emails/newsreading etc...
I guess one solution would be then to set the mac to a different time zone to compensate ?
(internet times not neccessarily a good option since it's a laptop and not always online)..
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- K
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I just installed Boot Camp today (finally) and it seems that the announcement of the death of the time issue was premature. This is odd-it was actually a big deal when the "fix" was released.
Isn't there a device driver in there somewhere for Windows to get the time "filtered" by the firmware? I seem to recall something about a special file in BC 1.1...
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I have the latest files/drivers/bootcamp osx update etc... and the time issue is still screwed.
Sigh...
its a pain but oh well...
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Yeah, it's still not working seamlessly. Simply resynch OS X's time through the time/date gadget and it's all better.
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This is a really poor way of handling it, but I just set both Operating systems to GMT (no Dalylight savings time, timezone Reykjavik, not England )
In OSX I have some widgets with the local time if I need it. And with Vista you can have a couple different time zones in the date and time when you click on the time in the tray.
It's just what I do for now anyway until they fix it.
If I need to set up stuff in my calendar or for alarms I have to calculate the right time in GMT and use that. I've begun to think in GMT! hah.
Windows (vista and XP) has a setting in the registry where you can set it to use UTC as the hardware clock, you might want to try googling around for it. This however only works for a short while and stops being effective after a few minutes of uptime, even when I disable internet time retrieval for the clock it resets back to a few hours ahead. I've tried a few different ways, but nothing seemed to work, so I'm on GMT.
(Last edited by arjunM; Aug 6, 2007 at 08:51 PM.
(Reason:UTC not UMT :)))
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Unfortunately, the Windows Registry setting is "undocumented" and there's no guarantee it will work forever; it may not stay available after ANY update. But it IS a workaround, and better than that, it's on Windows, not OS X.
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Glenn -----
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