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KiD · Apr 28, 2007, 10:41 AM

Hey Guys,

I would like to know if I can make my Macbook to boot with one OS, Windows Vista. I would like to remove Mac Os X cause I need more space on my Hard Disk as it has a capacity of 80 Gb Only.

Is there any way to delete the Mac Partition?

Thanks For Your Help,
DaN

mduell · Apr 28, 2007, 12:16 PM

Boot off the Vista installer disk, delete all the existing partitions, and create a new partition covering the whole 80GB disk.

KiD · Apr 28, 2007, 12:44 PM

Thanks for replying.

Will I have any problems with Boot Camp?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Apr 28, 2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Thanks for replying.

Will I have any problems with Boot Camp?

your installing Vista over OS X, you don't need Boot Camp

(PS, why are you installing Vista over OS X?!)

KiD · Apr 28, 2007, 03:06 PM

Cause I need Vista to do .net Programmin dude, no support for it on Mac!

Thanks for all the help guys, truly appreciated!

C.A.T.S. CEO · Apr 28, 2007, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Cause I need Vista to do .net Programmin dude, no support for it on Mac!

Thanks for all the help guys, truly appreciated!

Why did you get a Mac then? You could have just got a PC laptop for half the price. Thats like buying a damn good race horse just to ride and not race, so much wasted potential....

ghporter · Apr 28, 2007, 09:35 PM

While it is your choice, I'm confused as to why you chose a Mac to do your .Net programming with. While the MacBook is indeed one of the coolest laptops around (along with the MacBook Pro), it isn't the "right" machine for running a Windows OS exclusively. As C.A.T.S said, you could have bought a much less expensive PC laptop with Vista installed already and had a lot of money left over for what you spent on your MacBook. Thus many of us are very confused...

mduell · Apr 28, 2007, 09:53 PM

Seems like you could do most .NET programming (unless your doing performance-critical graphics) inside Parallels or VMware.

KiD · Apr 29, 2007, 03:41 AM

I got my MacBook for 1,283.74 EUR. I got the one with the 2ghz Core 2 Duo, Dvd Writer, 1Gb Of Ramand 80Gb Harddisk.

In Malta, a laptop with the same price got a 2.9 Rating In Vista. My MacBook got 3.1. In Malta laptops are very expensive due to the fact that company's can't buy in large bulks due too are small population resulting in small demand. Only 500k Ppl live in Malta.

Thus for me it was a first that I got a MacBook, and for a terrific price for the specs it has compared to other laptops with the same price.

Hope that Clears Everything Out,
DaN

ghporter · Apr 29, 2007, 07:34 AM

That does make more sense. And as described before, you don't need Boot Camp to install Vista on your MacBook. But you DO need Boot Camp to create the driver disc you'll need to get all the parts of the MacBook WORKING with Vista. I'd recommend downloading and installing BootCamp, using the tool to burn a driver disc, and then shut down the MacBook. Now insert the Vista install disc and just go with it-it should work ok.

KiD · Apr 29, 2007, 08:07 AM

So at Start Up at the moment, it's displaying the option to boot up with Mac Or Windows. When I remove the Mac Partition, that option should be removed and it will boot up with Windows Directly?

Bdw Guys, any of you guys do gaming with Mac Os X?

Thanks for all your help,
DaN

Cold Warrior · Apr 29, 2007, 10:31 AM

If you have an external drive with a Mac OS Extended partition, you may want to install the Mac OS onto that in case for some reason in the future you need to boot into OS X (for example, to run Boot Camp again in order to burn an updated drivers disc).

KiD · Apr 29, 2007, 11:52 AM

K Thanks

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tavin64 · Apr 29, 2007, 04:02 PM

Does vista support EFI out of the box? Because if it doesnt I think he will have trouble booting if he wipes the entire drive as that will get rid of the EFI partition at the beginning of the drive.

mac128k-1984 · Apr 29, 2007, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by tavin64

Does vista support EFI out of the box? Because if it doesnt I think he will have trouble booting

I don't think so, I was able to load both Vista and XP w/o boot camp.

mduell · Apr 29, 2007, 06:37 PM

Vista and EFI is a sordid history... I think the latest is that neither 32 nor 64-bit support EFI now, but 64-bit will in the future.
But once you've run BootCamp once, the CSM is installed in the machines firmware, so wiping the drive shouldn't be a problem.

KiD · Apr 29, 2007, 06:39 PM

Will it be a problem to load Windows Vista without a Mac Os installed?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Apr 29, 2007, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Will it be a problem to load Windows Vista without a Mac Os installed?

No

(btw, your sig contradicts this threads topic

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mac128k-1984 · Apr 29, 2007, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

(btw, your sig contradicts this threads topic

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Not really he likes macintoshes but he needs to run vista instead of OSX. Besides why are you on his case?

I know quite a few people who chose a mac but only for the hardware, putting windows on it.

tavin64 · Apr 29, 2007, 07:18 PM

EFI and Windows Vista

No support out of the box for EFI and vista 64-bit. So I would make sure that when you run the Vista installer make sure you do not erase the EFI partition on the hard drive. Just erase the OSX partition only. So after installing only vista your hard drive should have 2 partitions, EFI and vista.

mac128k-1984 · Apr 29, 2007, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by tavin64

So I would make sure that when you run the Vista installer make sure you do not erase the EFI partition on the hard drive. Just erase the OSX partition only. So after installing only vista your hard drive should have 2 partitions, EFI and vista.

No need, I installed Vista (and xp) on a clean drive without any efi partitions. Those extra partitions, AFAIK, are needed/used for bootcamp to allow switching the partitions when you select which os you want to boot in, either by the system preferences or control panel (depending on what os your in)

C.A.T.S. CEO · Apr 29, 2007, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984

Not really he likes macintoshes but he needs to run vista instead of OSX. Besides why are you on his case?

I know quite a few people who chose a mac but only for the hardware, putting windows on it.

as I said before, its like buying a race horse just to trot around the yard, so much wasted potential

KiD · Apr 30, 2007, 03:27 AM

K so I can delete all partitions, from the Windows Installer and Install Vista on a Fresh Hard Disk. C

C.A.T.S. CEO, no my signature doesn't contradict this post cuz I love Mac Hardware dude.

Im ashamed to say that I have to remove Mac Os X but I have too. The course im in chose Visual Studio.Net as there main programming language and I have to use Windows for that.

And also, try running Windows Vista Ultimate on a Mac like mine it does actually use the hardware the Mac posesses to it's full potential.

And finally here's a little story about Call Of Duty 2 On My MacBook. I don't know if you've heard of cases like these before. So i'm a fan of Call Of Duty 2 Multiplayer, and on my Desktop Pc it's installed, it's a Windows Powered Machine. So then I thought on my Mac i'll install it through BootCamp. So it would install properly, apply all the patches and then when I try to start the game "Direct X Error". I contacted Activision Customer Care and they told me that it doesn't work on Intel Integrated Graphics Chips. I bought the Mac Version of Call Of Duty 2 off E-Bay and it worked
brilliantly. Now did the Hardware change whilst the game was coming from E-Bay? Or does Mac Os X Host a potential to gamers like me?

Best Regards,
DaN

KiD · Apr 30, 2007, 03:36 AM

Also do you think I can install Windows Vista 64 Bit Or Not?

Thanks.

C.A.T.S. CEO · 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by KiD

Also do you think I can install Windows Vista 64 Bit Or Not?

Thanks.

What CPU do you have? Core Duo or Core 2 Duo?

KiD · Apr 30, 2007, 04:08 AM

Core 2 Duo!

C.A.T.S. CEO · Apr 30, 2007, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by KiD

Core 2 Duo!

Then go with 64 bit

KiD · Apr 30, 2007, 04:18 AM

K Thanks Man

! Bdw got any explanation for the Cod2 Thingy?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Apr 30, 2007, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by KiD

K Thanks Man

! Bdw got any explanation for the Cod2 Thingy?

Cod2? What?

KiD · Apr 30, 2007, 07:01 AM

Look at the post I did at 10.27Am, regarding Call Of Duty 2 working On Mac Os X but not working on Windows with the same hardware.

mac128k-1984 · Apr 30, 2007, 07:31 AM

I'd avoid using the 64bit flavor of vista. You're going to run into driver issues as Apple (so far) is only supporting the 32bit version and as you know if the driver is not signed it will not load. I've also read reports about some games running into issues with the 64 bit version. Other then more memory available there's no reason to go with the 64bit vista.

As for COD2, I was running that on my Macpro w/o any problems (the windows version) but it does sound like its a driver issue. Did you burn a bootcamp cd, or are you using the default drivers supplied by microsoft?

mac128k-1984 · Apr 30, 2007, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

as I said before, its like buying a race horse just to trot around the yard, so much wasted potential

How so? I'm not sure what you mean. While I think OSX is a superior OS in a lot of ways, I'm not getting your point of wasted potential by loading or using windows.

KiD · Apr 30, 2007, 06:04 PM

No Activision said that the WIndows Version Of Call Of Duty 2 doesn't support my Intel Integrated ChipIntel 945GM) thus displaying a Direct X Error. But on Mac it works perfectly.

Bdw do you play Call of duty 2 Multiplayer mac128k-1984?

Best Regards,
DaN

mac128k-1984 · Apr 30, 2007, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

No Activision said that the WIndows Version Of Call Of Duty 2 doesn't support my Intel Integrated ChipIntel 945GM) thus displaying a Direct X Error. But on Mac it works perfectly.

Bdw do you play Call of duty 2 Multiplayer mac128k-1984?

Best Regards,
DaN

Well that makes sense since OSX does not run direct-x and no I don't play multiplayer. I have two 16 month old twin girls, my game playing time is short and abrupt

I generally get only a few minutes here and there.

peeb · Apr 30, 2007, 07:24 PM

You think you've got it bad - wait till they're 16 years old!

mac128k-1984 · Apr 30, 2007, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by peeb

You think you've got it bad - wait till they're 16 years old!

Never said it was getting better, but so far nothing beat how hard it was when they were born. They woke up every three hours around the clock for 6 months. Talk about the walking dead, I cannot believe how my wife and I survived only a few hours of sleep at night - for 6 month!

KiD · May 1, 2007, 05:00 AM

Lol im still 16 peeb..Well I have a niece and she's lik 1 Year 4 Months and like she comes every 3 days or 2 days over and the happiness she brings is incredible..I just have to get off My Computer and go see her..And getting me off my computer is a hard thing.

cgc · May 1, 2007, 07:42 AM

I wish posts would have more descriptive titles. "Help pls" doesn't really attract attention.

KiD · May 1, 2007, 10:54 AM

Sry, it's my fault about the Title! Should have been more creative

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C.A.T.S. CEO · May 1, 2007, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Sry, it's my fault about the Title! Should have been more creative

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sry isn't a word too.

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KiD · May 1, 2007, 04:52 PM

Sureeee

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ghporter · May 1, 2007, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Sureeee

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In the interest of readability and understandability, I'd suggest using Standard English rather than the shorthand you're using. Many of our members are not terribly fluent in English as it is, and the non-standard usage you've been posting can confuse them (not to mention ME) pretty badly.

And before you start on about "lack of knowledge" or "not being up on things," I should point out that I'm a Computer Scientist and in grad school after yet another degree-I DO know what I'm talking about when it comes to this shorthand.

cgc · May 1, 2007, 08:10 PM

Cool...after I posted I thought you might take it the wrong way (title of thread) but I scan threads and would help someone if I could (which depends on title). Hope you get your problem fixed.

ghporter · May 1, 2007, 08:41 PM

Actually I let this thread go in spite of the fact that its title violates one of our rules (titles must be descriptive). Since I didn't see it until there were many posts in it, I figured it'd do more harm than good to change the title, or correct the OP. But in the future, KiD WILL be subject to a good chewing out if he/she fails to follow this rule. It's purpose is to HELP get people to see what people post, because a lot of us scan, as cgc mentions, and we just don't bother with threads whose titles don't match what we are interested in. "Help Pls!" doesn't match ANYTHING I'm interested in, but as a moderator I must look at every thread and every post in this forum to ensure that sanity and order prevail. No, I don't think I'm up for a bonus this year!

KiD · May 2, 2007, 11:35 AM

Hehe K im sorry caught the habit of using shortened words from Msn Messenger :/! And yes you guys were very helpful and solved my problem.

Bdw im still 16, it's obvious that I use shortened words. SMS, Msn Etc Etc!

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C.A.T.S. CEO · May 2, 2007, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Hehe K im sorry caught the habit of using shortened words from Msn Messenger :/! And yes you guys were very helpful and solved my problem.

Bdw im still 16, it's obvious that I use shortened words. SMS, Msn Etc Etc!

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I'm 15 and don't use them as much....

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