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Feb 10, 2008, 01:11 PM
 
This post is in reference to "How to Uninstall OS X"

Sorry my english !

I think each one does what he wants with your money! If the apple never wanted that windows run on your hardware, had not developed the bootcamp. Now, if this is possible and I have enough money, what's problem ! Remember that it is not today that several people try to run OS X on PC's

Save the freedom, and live your live's before judge.
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Feb 10, 2008, 01:55 PM
 
If you are really looking for the freedom of choice, you won't find this in a proprietary operating system or company. You will find this in open source and Linux though.
     
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Feb 10, 2008, 05:14 PM
 


WTF is your point ?

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Feb 10, 2008, 07:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post


WTF is your point ?

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See the referenced thread about removing OS X and using a Mac to ONLY run Windows...
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See the referenced thread about removing OS X and using a Mac to ONLY run Windows...
I did, but at first, it still didn't make sense.

And I still don't get why he started a new thread. I first thought the old one was locked.

For once, a user who read the rules

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Feb 11, 2008, 05:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
For once, a user who read the rules

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Not quite. Considering our dear OP's English skills, the wording in our rules was probably too much for him. I snipped his post from the original thread and started a new one with it. The spirit was apparently willing...
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Not quite. Considering our dear OP's English skills, the wording in our rules was probably too much for him. I snipped his post from the original thread and started a new one with it. The spirit was apparently willing...


OMG, this is so funny.

Well, while you were at it, why did you not correct his spelling and grammar as well

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turtle: relax man, it's not like this matters or something...
     
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post


OMG, this is so funny.

Well, while you were at it, why did you not correct his spelling and grammar as well

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Because our purpose is to help users post their ideas. A ONE POST member who accidentally violates a rule like this (not like spamming) gets the benefit of the doubt, and gets helped out.
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Feb 13, 2008, 02:27 PM
 
Sadly, I have to say I'm not surprised about the harsh response in the linked thread, and it really shows how people still haven't let the comment Jobs made during his return over 10 years ago sink in. "We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose." Being so close minded really only makes new users to this community feel unwelcome and leave. At a time when Apple is doing well, do we really want to drag the mentality back to the mid 90s and possibly impact the growth of the Mac platform?

Take this scenario as an example of why running Windows only on a Mac might come up.

Company A wants to investigate OS X in an existing Windows work environment. They want to do this in the least disruptive way and so they decide to take baby steps. Hardware wise, they notice that the Mac Pro towers Apple sells are comparable to the Dell workstations they currently use, and to boot, come in at a competitive price too. So the company orders 5 Mac Pros. On 4 of them, they just want to run Windows to upgrade a few peoples aging workstations, and the 5th one runs OS X at a developers desk to investigate portability issues.

In this case, running OS X on the other 4 would be potentially disruptive to people in the company until all the workflow issues can be resolved, however, it does make it easier to later migrate as the hardware is already in place. The developer who got the 5th machine can take the time needed to investigate the issues, all while the company only had to spend money once on desktops for a few users. The alternative would have been to buy 4 Dell boxes and one Mac, then possibly need to replace the Dell boxes when they aren't that old if the migration does go forward. Now if unsolvable issues do arise to make the transition to not occur, the Mac Pro hardware is still perfectly usable as a Windows workstation.

Being able to answer how to install Windows without OS X on a Mac is useful for this type of situation. Others I could think of would be someone interested in the hardware design of a Mac, but unable to migrate currently. We live in a multi OS world, it's a shame this community has a hard time seeing that, especially when they support the hardware out there that offers the most OS choices legally.
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Feb 13, 2008, 03:17 PM
 
I wholeheartedly agree with Drakino. First and foremost Apple is a hardware company and any means of getting more market share is in Apples interest.

I for one work in a multi OS world and love the fact that I can run any Modern OS with no problems all on one unit. Just a reboot is all it takes.


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I wholeheartedly agree with Drakino. First and foremost Apple is a hardware company and any means of getting more market share is in Apples interest.
I disagree.

Apple is a company that successfully married hardware with software in a way not done by anyone else.

You can not separate the hardware from the software, because Apple makes it an integrated experience. (e.g. iPods, iPhone, AppleTV, iLife on Macs).

I don't think Apple's would survive if they focused on superior hardware alone.

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Feb 13, 2008, 11:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by silver View Post
I wholeheartedly agree with Drakino. First and foremost Apple is a hardware company and any means of getting more market share is in Apples interest.
I'd say that Apple is a great software company that happens to be depending on hardware for their revenues because of legacy issues.

Apple's hardware is OK, but not great. Their software is what makes their machines attractive. Buying a Mac just to run Windows seems rather pointless to me.

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Feb 14, 2008, 12:18 AM
 
@CharlesS I agree with a portion of your last statement, Apple software is very good I personally use FCP and Shake. Using any intel mac, your given the freedom to run what you like and isn't that a good thing for the consumer?

@Turtle777 ok good point about the integration.

For me the beauty of Apple Hardware is that I'm not handcuffed to one OS and can use any app that suits my needs. It's almost an open platform so to speak.


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