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KaptainKaya · May 29, 2002, 09:54 PM

Ok, it boots up into the text installer (i specified of course), and I get to the part where its initializing the partions I set up per the instructions. When it goes to format the root drive (largest one), its seems the progress bar is stuck EVERYTIME at about 10%. Any ideas what I did wrong, if anything? Or what to do?

PowerMac 5500/200
32MB RAM
2GB HD
OS 8.6 on a 500MB Partition
10 MB to bootloader
128 MB for SWAP
1401MB for Linux itself

Cipher13 · Jun 16, 2002, 09:43 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KaptainKaya:
Ok, it boots up into the text installer (i specified of course), and I get to the part where its initializing the partions I set up per the instructions. When it goes to format the root drive (largest one), its seems the progress bar is stuck EVERYTIME at about 10%. Any ideas what I did wrong, if anything? Or what to do?

PowerMac 5500/200
32MB RAM
2GB HD
OS 8.6 on a 500MB Partition
10 MB to bootloader
128 MB for SWAP
1401MB for Linux itself<hr /></blockquote>Same prob on my machine...

YDL 2.2

PowerMac 5500/250
32 RAM
2 gig HD
8.6 on a 1 gig partition
128 swap
1 gig for /

No joy.

Get to the partition screen, gets to 10%, then gives me the error...

"terminated install. exited abnormally. sending termination signals... done. sending kill signals... done. you may safely reboot your system"

KaptainKaya · Jun 16, 2002, 03:33 PM

Yeah I had tried 2.2 as well but still a no go. I submitted to the mailing lists about 2 weeks ago too and no answer was given, not even something to try. Oh well.

Cipher13 · Jun 17, 2002, 02:15 AM

I had a similar prob with LinuxPPC... is YDL based on LPPC?

I'm gonna try a different distro...

KaptainKaya · Jun 17, 2002, 07:59 AM

YDL is based on Red Hat 7.2...at least that's what the web site claims. If you happen to get Mandrake to work, let me know. I was thinking about d/ling that but won't have time for a few days.

Cipher13 · Jul 2, 2002, 09:23 PM

Well, Mandrake got further, then the installer has errors, not being able to find certain files

.

In Apache mod_perl, no less, which can't be deselected. So, I did an advanced install, and it had some other error, which I forget now.

Vanquish · Jul 4, 2002, 09:56 AM

so basically Linux sucks bigtime !

Northform · Jul 4, 2002, 11:53 AM

The progress bar is not multithreaded so it won't move until it gets done with a partition (hence it stops at 10% even if it still doing work). Try leaving it doing that while your sleeping (or shopping) and come back. That stage takes about 15 minutes on my B&W G3. It might take longer on your machines.

LPPC and YDL don't have a direct relationship, but they are both based on RedHat. LPPC is no longer in development. I know it wasn't out when a lot of these posts were made, but YDL just released version 2.3.

Some of these problems might be because of an unsupported addon. Linux distros for the PPC don't like a lot of PCI cards like certain IDE and SCSI ones. Try removing any hardware that didn't come with your computer (if possible).

Cipher13 · Jul 7, 2002, 12:31 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Northform:
The progress bar is not multithreaded so it won't move until it gets done with a partition (hence it stops at 10% even if it still doing work). Try leaving it doing that while your sleeping (or shopping) and come back. That stage takes about 15 minutes on my B&W G3. It might take longer on your machines.

LPPC and YDL don't have a direct relationship, but they are both based on RedHat. LPPC is no longer in development. I know it wasn't out when a lot of these posts were made, but YDL just released version 2.3.

Some of these problems might be because of an unsupported addon. Linux distros for the PPC don't like a lot of PCI cards like certain IDE and SCSI ones. Try removing any hardware that didn't come with your computer (if possible).<hr /></blockquote>Naw, it's not that, unfortunately... it tells me that it terminated, and that I can reboot safely.

I have an ethernet card installed (PCI), I could try it without that, but I can't imagine that'd effect it at the formatting stage...

Northform · Jul 7, 2002, 01:38 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Cipher13:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Northform:
The progress bar is not multithreaded so it won't move until it gets done with a partition (hence it stops at 10% even if it still doing work). Try leaving it doing that while your sleeping (or shopping) and come back. That stage takes about 15 minutes on my B&W G3. It might take longer on your machines.

LPPC and YDL don't have a direct relationship, but they are both based on RedHat. LPPC is no longer in development. I know it wasn't out when a lot of these posts were made, but YDL just released version 2.3.

Some of these problems might be because of an unsupported addon. Linux distros for the PPC don't like a lot of PCI cards like certain IDE and SCSI ones. Try removing any hardware that didn't come with your computer (if possible).<hr /></blockquote>Naw, it's not that, unfortunately... it tells me that it terminated, and that I can reboot safely.

I have an ethernet card installed (PCI), I could try it without that, but I can't imagine that'd effect it at the formatting stage...<hr /></blockquote>I was actually refering to the original author who had just said that it stopped at 10%. His install hadin't terminated like yours, from the looks of his post; just froze.

KaptainKaya · Jul 7, 2002, 10:43 PM

Mine terminated as well. Got black text on the screen in the form of a kernal panic...so I know it was running at the time. No addons either, stock machine even.

Jeff Binder · Jul 10, 2002, 12:04 PM

Similar problems here. I've got a SuperMac c500, 88MB RAM, 6GB HD (I've tried with a different HD, too: a 1 GB. That's not the problem), a USB card, and a Rage 128 pulled from a B&W G3. What happens varies. Sometimes it freezes up, sometimes it quits with blank error messages, sometimes it kernel panics.

I installed Debian without problems, but the copy I have is an old version without USB support, so I'm trying to find a different distro to use. I've also got YDL 2.2 on my G3, and it installed without problems there, but I don't like the distro that much. The main problem is that xterm is broken out of the box (??), and I prefer Debian's package management system.

Well, I'm downloading Mandrake now, so we'll see how that goes. After that I'll try the latest Debian. There's also Gentoo, but I'd have to swap out one of the cards for a NIC so I could use broadband on the c500. I may try Gentoo on my G3, though. Oh yes, and SuSE. I'm sure to fine one I like

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IUJHJSDHE · Jul 11, 2002, 02:19 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Vanquish:
so basically Linux sucks bigtime !

<hr /></blockquote>err more like "Some distros of Linux for PPC's installers suck bigtime for these 3 people"

[ 07-11-2002, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: IUJHJSDHE ]

Evangellydonut · Jul 11, 2002, 03:06 PM

Linux, the way i see it, is a spoiled child, or maybe a bubble boy, that need everything to be taken care of by the user...
I had to run the installer 3 times for YDL2.2 to work on my iBook 233, and 3 times trying to get airport to work...but in the end, it all worked out...and my iBook is laying around in a corner somewhere in my house, only getting used when my new iBook had major problems when I tried DP1 of X.2 ^_^;
With that said...I think i'll stay with OS X for now

sorry, can't help ya there.

KaptainKaya · Jul 12, 2002, 10:02 AM

No biggie, I just thought I would give a little more life to my mac and mac it a server. Oh well, guess I can spawn for Xserve <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Jeff Binder · Jul 12, 2002, 02:04 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by IUJHJSDHE:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Vanquish:
so basically Linux sucks bigtime !

<hr /></blockquote>err more like "Some distros of Linux for PPC's installers suck bigtime for these 3 people"

<hr /></blockquote>...on systems that aren't officially supported.

HelloOpenWorld · Jul 15, 2002, 03:37 AM

Linux works on my 5500/225.
I tried both Debian and LinuxPPC 2000. No big probs with the installers.

But, ethernet is not working the way it should. I have a Asant� card connected to my cablemodem, the computer stops receiving after a minute or so.

Please, if succeed installing AND getting ethernet to funktion, let me know and I give the machine a last try.

All else is fine though.

Cipher13 · Jul 15, 2002, 09:30 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jeff Binder:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by IUJHJSDHE:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Vanquish:
so basically Linux sucks bigtime !

<hr /></blockquote>err more like "Some distros of Linux for PPC's installers suck bigtime for these 3 people"

<hr /></blockquote>...on systems that aren't officially supported.

<hr /></blockquote>Prob is, they are supported <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

Jeff Binder · Jul 15, 2002, 07:19 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Cipher13:
Prob is, they are supported

<hr /></blockquote>OK, the 5500 is supported (I suppose I was thinking of the 4400), but at least my c500 is not supported. Sorry about that mix-up.

Any way, I've switched from Yellow Dog to Gentoo on my G3 and I like it a lot better. It's MUCH faster all around if you compile with optimization. I'm installing it on the c500 now. We'll see how it goes.

Like I said, Debian has worked for me on the c500 before, but I've recently installed a USB card and a Rage 128 neither of which are supported by the old version of Debian I have, so I've decided to take the opportunity to try something different.

I guess YDL doesn't really focus on older hardware, hence the installer problems. Debian's installer seems to support older hardware better (and is more stable all around). And Gentoo doesn't have an installer in the first place <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> .

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by HelloOpenWorld:
But, ethernet is not working the way it should. I have a Asant� card connected to my cablemodem, the computer stops receiving after a minute or so.

Please, if succeed installing AND getting ethernet to funktion, let me know and I give the machine a last try..<hr /></blockquote>I've got an Asant� card in my c500 as well. It seems to be working in Linux (I'm downloading the Gentoo image with it right now). Are you sure you've got the right kernel modules loaded? I'm using 'de4x5'.

[ 07-15-2002, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: Jeff Binder ]

rambo47 · Jul 15, 2002, 07:57 PM

I said, "Screw Linux" a while ago. I was trying to use YDL 2.2 on my Dual-USB iBook along with OS X. Couldn't install 2.2, but I got 2.1 to install. I just got sick of all the little problems like AirPort not working (tried every solution I could find), finnicky drivers for peripherals, etc. I was hoping it would be a little snappier than OS X, but that too was a dissapointment. For a novice like me it's just not worth the hassles. I ended up putting OS 9 back on my hard drive as my secondary OS. Everything works and I understand it. What a relief. I just don't think YDL is ready for prime time yet.

Cipher13 · Jul 28, 2002, 06:20 PM

Grr.

I put my external SCSI HD on the 5500, booted from that, and tried... no go. So there goes the 'two harddrives' theory.

Oddly, it's now being very, very erratic, when attempting to install... I'm completely confused by the behaviour.

I'm thinking pretty much along Rambo's lines... "screw it".

...but damned if I'm gonna let a software problem get the best of me... Linux, least of all!

Cipher13 · Jul 31, 2002, 05:31 AM

Doing an FTP install as we speak... I'll let everyone know how it goes (Mandrake, btw, not YDL - I gave up on her).

robotmarkVIII · Aug 20, 2002, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Well, Mandrake got further, then the installer has errors, not being able to find certain files .

In Apache mod_perl, no less, which can't be deselected. So, I did an advanced install, and it had some other error, which I forget now.

Dude, don't use mandrake, try debian.

of course, i'm not being helpful at all but it doesn't bother me this late at night.

download something from here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

then click on the very intuitive x11 install.

I blieve its QT