[mithral]

Okay, this is coming from a guy with absolutely zero Linux experience, so bear with me:

Is there any way to emulate a Linux environment under OSX? Something like Virtual PC, or Classic. I realize that I could set up a partition and boot into Linux, but I want to avoid that, if possible. Is what I'm suggesting feasible, or do mee be talkin' gibberish (cow)?

Thanks.

-mithral

[IUJHJSDHE]

I intalled mandrake on VPC and it's as slow as freaken hell.
Don't even bother with VPC

[richard bl]

You have to run Mandrake in VPC on the Mac OS 9 side, it's faster. On my G4 867, the speed is acceptable (512 ram to vpc). I find Red Hat 7.3 a little faster (vpc in mac os 9). You can find on Connectix site a small tutorial on how to install RH (and others) with VPC( http://fmpweb.connectix.com/kdb_new/FMPro ).

[ 05-15-2002: Message edited by: richard bl ]

[richard bl]

You have to run Mandrake in VPC on the Mac OS 9 side, it's faster. On my G4 867, the speed is acceptable (512 k ram). I find Red Hat 7.3 a little faster (vpc in mac os 9). You can find on the Red Hat site a small tutorial on how to install RH (and others) with VPC.

[webb3201]

You can buy a pentium class machine with monitor for under 100.00 complete on ebay. I think that is the safest way to learn the OS.

[Northform]

It is completely feasible.

One way would be for someone to write a program like Mac-On-Linux which allows PowerPC Linux to boot the Mac OS in an emulation window.

Another thing you could do is run an x86 Linux under Virtual PC.

One thing to consider and it isn't the same as running linux is running an X Windows Server under Mac OS X. I believe this is what you want. Running something like XDarwin will allow you to run programs like OpenOffice, Gnome, KDE, GIMP, and many others. What most people think of as Linux isn't. It's X Windows which is what linux (and many other Unix varients) use to draw graphics and windows on the screen. You should check out the fink project for more information or the unix section under mac os x downloads on apple's web site.

[Sven G]

Some useful links, IMO...

XFree86: http://www.xfree86.org

XDarwin: http://www.xdarwin.org

Fink: http://fink.sourceforge.net

OSXGNU: http://www.osxgnu.org

PPC Linux: http://www.penguinppc.org


With the (probably!) imminent release of a Fink KDE "port" (for X Windows - not Aqua) on OS X, there really isn't any strict need for running a *desktop* Linux on OS X (except for development/testing purposes, etc., for which the VPC + Mandrake solution might be acceptable, if somewhat slow...).

An interesting complimentary (together with OS X, albeit on different partitions) solution could be to wait for SuSE Linux 8.0 PPC (presumably they'll make it, as for the x86 version), which seems to be quite interesting and powerful: http://www.suse.com

[mithral]

Wow. Lots of info. Thanks for the links, guys.

I'm getting a new PowerBook, and my current iMac 350 looks like a good candidate for a "Linux Learning Box". I'll check out SuSE and Yellow Dog -- thanks again!

-mithral

[mithral]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Northform:
<strong>It is completely feasible.

One way would be for someone to write a program like Mac-On-Linux which allows PowerPC Linux to boot the Mac OS in an emulation window.

Another thing you could do is run an x86 Linux under Virtual PC.

One thing to consider and it isn't the same as running linux is running an X Windows Server under Mac OS X. I believe this is what you want. Running something like XDarwin will allow you to run programs like OpenOffice, Gnome, KDE, GIMP, and many others. What most people think of as Linux isn't. It's X Windows which is what linux (and many other Unix varients) use to draw graphics and windows on the screen. You should check out the fink project for more information or the unix section under mac os x downloads on apple's web site.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Yeah, that sounds about like what I'm trying to do. Thanks -- I'll check it out.

Later.

-mithral