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Delicious Library 2? [SPECULATION]
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What does the world hold forth yet bar for Delicious Library?
More Social Networking jaunts? Bonjour-enchanced libraries?
One can only speculate, unless he/she/she-he is a Delicious Monster themselves
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Just wondering, are you a employee of DM?
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Some good printing features (like maybe CD inserts with track listing and song length)?
Integration with iTunes on some level?
Online integration?
Just hoping.
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Join Date: Jul 2000
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I want to see Bonjour-shared libraries, so I can see collections of other people on my network.
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The original goal of Delicious Library was to enter your collection _AND_ share it. I think 1.0 did a good job at the first part, but we ran out of time to do the second very well, beyond our loaning features. There are some third-party solutions out there that people were nice enough to make, but we feel that integrating sharing is really important to the original vision.
That said, I can't promise any particular timeframe for any particular feature. I mean, this is the problem with talking about software -- people will hear about something that's being worked on, misconstrue what they're hearing to be a promise, and then be mad when there's an update and a feature is "missing."
As always, my advice to consumers is: if you like what the software does TODAY, buy it. If you think you're only going to like the next version, WAIT until that version comes out before you buy.
I can tell you we're working on a ton of features. Not all of them will make it into 2.0; we simply don't have time. They're all really, really awesome, and putting some of them off for 3.0 is really killing us.
I can also tell you that 2.0 WILL use CoreData (on SQL) unless something catastrophic happens (e.g., we find some surprise, killer bug). It's been running on CoreData for almost a year now internally and, for larger collections, the speedup is beyond belief. (For smaller collections, where everything was in-memory anyways, there won't be any appreciable difference from this.)
We haven't announced a release date yet; it's still a ways off. We got delayed because I spent five months rewriting the iSight scanning stuff from scratch for 1.6 (a free upgrade), because the new, internal iSights in MacBooks and iMacs don't focus, and we strongly suspect that all new Macs are going to have internal iSights, which meant that if we didn't get non-focusing cameras working we'd have to sell everyone external iSights or bluetooth scanners, and we'd really prefer to just sell the $40 software and have it work. (Luckily, the new algorithm works great on internal cameras, and we were able to tune up the old algorithm for external iSights as well, so it's much faster and is 200x as sensitive.)
-Wil
(Last edited by Delicious Monster : May 19, 2006 at 04:10 PM
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Wil
What I'd dearly love is for Delicious Library to work in with LibraryThing. I love both - DL is desktop based, mac-based and looks great, LT is web based, and great for sharing.
I really like DL's issuing capability - but find its lack of sync-ing ability between my iMac and Powerbook a handicap. I like the fact that I can access LT anywhere I have access to the Net, but of course if I don't (have a net connection) I can't access my data..
I know I'm probably asking for / suggesting the impossible - but if DL could either work with LT or develop the capabilities of LT, that would be great.
Cheers
Jeremy
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I was contacted by the LibraryThing guy and he said he's written a little importer from DL. I haven't used it, myself.
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I've got all kinds of ideas. One thing that would be nice in the UI is to move the search box to the top right location (to be more like Spotlight). Another feature that would be welcome is "custom sort order" so I can sort the Harry Potter books by release rather than by strict alphabetical title. I've got lots more - I'll post later.
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Originally Posted by wjsdelicious
The original goal of Delicious Library was to enter your collection _AND_ share it. I think 1.0 did a good job at the first part, but we ran out of time to do the second very well, beyond our loaning features.
My #1 complaint with Delicious Library (and its competitors) is the loaning features.
When I go to a "real" library, they scan my library card, then scan my books, and never need to look up anything.
With DL, if I check out books to friends, I have to find the book in the database and drag it to the borrower. You used the UPC code to enter the book in the first place; why not make it so you can use the UPC code to check out books? Select the borrower, then scan away at as many books/CDs as you're checking out.
If you implement such a feature, it would also be nice to have a barcode printing feature so you can print barcodes for older books that don't have them.
My #2 complaint is that you don't have lookup sources other than Amazon (especially Library of Congress) and don't save the ISBN number (if different than the UPC), but I'm sure you've heard that a zillion times before.
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If you scan an item you have in your library, Delicious Library jumps to that item, which you can then drag to a friend. I admit, it would be good functionality to be able to click a friend then scan a bunch of stuff out to them, but I think most people borrow from friends with a little less vigor than the public library.
I can't speak to the possibility of using sources other than Amazon (i.e., it's a can of worms I don't want to get into right now), but I can say that the Amazon number is the same as the ISBN, so even though it's not labeled as such, Delicious Library does retain the ISBN.
-Mike
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Originally Posted by wjsdelicious
I was contacted by the LibraryThing guy and he said he's written a little importer from DL. I haven't used it, myself.
What I'd like is to be able to effectively import FROM LibraryThing to DL
I've tried doing it from the file that LT produces - DL imports the books, but doesn't only import 'new' books - it imports everything. That's no good if I want to keep the two systems in sync.
Cheers
Jeremy
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How about an easy way to export your list of DVDs (or whatever, I guess, I only track my DVDs) to a Web page? In list view I can copy and paste the list into an Excel file and clean things up to post it online, but a direct export would be great. My family checks-up on the DVDs I already have on my Web site when it comes to birthday/holiday season... Thanks!
-Doug
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That reminds me - it would be nice to track a wishlist in DL.
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I think being able to keep track of items that are not in your library is a nifty idea.
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You kind of can. Let's say you see an item on Amazon you like, but don't own? Drag and drop it into Delicious Library right from Safari. Then, go to "My Info" and set the owner to "Wish List." This is also a great way to keep track of books you've borrowed from friends on the public library.
-Mike
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Originally Posted by Delicious Monster
I admit, it would be good functionality to be able to click a friend then scan a bunch of stuff out to them, but I think most people borrow from friends with a little less vigor than the public library.
It doesn't happen very often with books, true, but there will come occasions when it would be handy. I've had friends borrow 4 or 5 CDs at once.
It doesn't seem to me like it's a feature that would be terribly difficult to code, but then, I'm not a professional and may not be thinking of all of the complications.
[edit: fixed typo]
(Last edited by Tom C : May 24, 2006 at 01:41 PM
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No, you're right, it would be useful, not only for the borrowing, but for, say, creating a shelf and scanning a bunch of books directly into it.
-Mike
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I remember that some time ago, it was said that DL was meant to make social networking, which is a very basic thing in our soon to be web 2.0 world, and which was a great idea 18 months ago when DL was launched.
I am now wondering if there is a chance to see great interaction in DL such as the one we find with dabbleDB ?
Whatever happens, open a line for the 2.0 release : I want to get it ASAP :-)
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Hey Wil,
Care to dish any dirt on future 'Wish list' capabilities and more 'robust tracking of movie viewing' (i.e. date last viewed, number of times viewed, some sort of iCal integration for tracking viewing habits would be nice, I do this all manually now).
I am looking forward to version 2.0, heres to hoping some of the above ideas are addressed.
Edit: Also, have you given any thought into 'new movie/music/book release' integration/notification (this is related to better wish list capabilities).
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I have a request from my Fiancee who is a Children's Librarian in FL...
"Please, please, please come out with a version of Delicious Library that can work across a big network and many libraries. We are stuck using ugly, nasty, Windows-based software because there's nothing else. Help us Obi-Wil, you're our only hope!"
I get asked about this a lot.
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I thought of something else that would be a nicety. Support for iTMS album artwork - that is to say, maybe something like double-clicking to get the full 600X600 resolution of what much of the artwork is that comes from the iTMS. As it is now you can paste in whatever you want but then it gets downsampled. It would be nice (not necessarily a necessity) to retain a larger number of those pixels.
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OK. Here's a few more...
Smartshelves - I'd like to use these just like smart playlists in iTunes where I could create a new "smartshelf" and then define the criteria used to place (or remove) media on that shelf. It would be nice if they worked across media types as well, so I could have a Lord of the Rings smartshelf with DVD's, soundtrack CD's, and books if I wanted. Mostly, I would use it for book genre categories. I do this now manually, and I dream of having it automated.
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