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bombcar
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Jul 18, 2006 , 10:42 PM
 
I think it would be cool to have support for spines and back covers, if possible.

Maybe even have a Amazon or other webservice where the spines & back covers could be uploaded. I think spines would be covered by fair use, not sure about back covers.

And we need a DL screen saver of some sort.

The ability to login to Amazon as a user and download the order history into DL (perhaps even being smart enough to ignore gifts).

A feature that gives DL 2.0 free to the people who bought DL the day it was released. Like me.

The Logo should not have a Symbol barcode scanner, it should have DL's!

A download should be made available that would convert the DL bluetooth scanner to a generic Symbol like scanner for Mac/Windows, because then I could get my company to pay for them and borrow them on the weekends. (Actually, a bluetooth scanner that could remember hundreds of scanned barcodes and then "programatically" play them back such as 1 TAB barcode TAB ENTER 1 TAB barcode TAB ENTER etc.... would be worth buying even without DL).

Easier direct importing of Amazon.com wish lists.

More kittens; everything is better with more kittens.
(Last edited by bombcar : Jul 18, 2006 at 11:03 PM )
     
bombcar
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Jul 18, 2006 , 10:57 PM
 
Ooo! Add a "Backup" menu item or button that would automagically create a compressed (and maybe even encrypted) disk image and save it somewhere! Easy and better than mucking around in ~/Library and simple enough for people who don't have .mac.
     
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Jul 19, 2006 , 01:23 AM
 
I'll add kittens as a feature request, although we had kittens once and it got reported as a bug.
     
zerografix
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Jul 19, 2006 , 07:34 AM
 
Originally Posted by Delicious Monster
I'll add kittens as a feature request, although we had kittens once and it got reported as a bug.
Ya know Kittens are Delicious
     
Sinemacula
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Jul 23, 2006 , 12:23 PM
 
How about support for cataloguing ebooks, with an integrated ebook reader?
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Tesseract_
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Jul 24, 2006 , 06:23 AM
 
Apart from the many good ideas already mentioned, the features I would like to see in DL are as follows.

1. An easy way of specifying and rearranging the physical locations of items. I have 17 bookcases comprising probably around 75 shelves in total, and I'd estimate around 3000 books (I haven't entered them all into DL yet). You can set the "location in building" field for an item, but that requires that you invent some kind of consistent naming scheme, e.g. "Hall Corner, 2nd from top shelf". Unless you set this field as you import (or put books into "shelves" as you go), it's difficult to find all the books on a particular shelf to specify their location.

I would like to see nested grouping, with maybe 3 layers (room, bookcase, shelf), though 2 would probably do the job. Books could be moved between shelves (or larger groupings) by drag-and-drop.

At the moment I have a DL "shelf" for each bookcase. While this is better than nothing, it's clearly not designed as a means of recording physical location -- you have to set the location in building separately from placing an item in a "shelf". Knowing exactly which physical shelf an item is on would make it much easier to find when there are several hundred items in a bookcase.

I think that recording the actual order of items on a particular shelf would be overkill, but hey, maybe some people would want to do that.

2. Smarter sorting. Customisable sort keys and comparison functions would go a long way, but some built-in cleverness would be good too. For example, when I sort by current value, a book which was only listed on Amazon Japan and which is worth 1500 Yen is sorted as being more valuable than a book which is worth 100 pounds sterling. Maybe you could grab exchange rate data from the same source as the currency converter widget?

Others have already mentioned the Artist/Group name sorting difficulties.

I'm glad to hear performance will improve, as that is definitely needed, and not only on the back end. I tried DL 1.6.2 on a 700 MHz G4 with 512 MB of RAM (running Tiger), and it was painfully slow even with a small collection.

Edit: I thought of something else regarding keeping track of physical locations. It would be nice to be able to tell DL to set the location of all new items to a particular value until further notice. (In fact, it would be nice to be able to do that with any field.)

Edit 2: The pound symbol gets killed by the forum??
(Last edited by Tesseract_ : Jul 25, 2006 at 05:41 AM )
     
Macint_sh
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Jul 24, 2006 , 10:03 PM
 
It would be nice if there was another "collection" for TV shows on DVD as this does not clarify as a movie and personally I hate the two being mixed because it sends a false record of how many movies I have.
     
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Jul 24, 2006 , 10:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by Macint_sh
It would be nice if there was another "collection" for TV shows on DVD as this does not clarify as a movie and personally I hate the two being mixed because it sends a false record of how many movies I have.
Seconded

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pellenys
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Aug 24, 2006 , 09:36 AM
 
I would vote for more sources of information, if possible. I've started using DL to catalogue quite a few old books (1600s onward) for which surprisingly there's some basic info on Amazon.

A winning feature of DL for me is seeing obscure and crumbling books recognised - a virtue of Amazon's data and DL's search I guess - but also seeing information I can't get from the book such as publication date...something Amazon doesn't always have. If other sources such as the British Library had more info to give, that really would be amazing to see.
     
stainboy
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Sep 7, 2006 , 08:30 AM
 
Originally Posted by Delicious Monster
You know, I've been spending all this time implementing a feature whereby Delicious Library will whiten your teeth while you sleep, but not a single person has requested it and I'm starting to feel very foolish.
hey, if you want someone to help beta test this feature, let me know. i'm beginning to think that my "Crest Extra Whitening Formula" toothpaste was nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

i was going to request you add blintz making capabilities to the next version of DM, or at least have a plug-in architecture so that blintz making can be added by a third party. but i see you've already got enough to worry about. i do love a good blintz though.
     
MaxPower
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Sep 7, 2006 , 09:57 AM
 
Originally Posted by typecase
I'd like to be able to delete a title across bookshelves. For example, if put some of my movies in a collection named 'bedroom', I'd like to be able to delete a title once from both bedroom and my main movie library by holding down the option key or something.
Someone got caught with Anal Cuties of Chinatown III in their main library!
     
balthazarb
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Sep 7, 2006 , 03:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by zebrafx
Wil

What I'd dearly love is for Delicious Library to work in with LibraryThing. I love both - DL is desktop based, mac-based and looks great, LT is web based, and great for sharing.

I really like DL's issuing capability - but find its lack of sync-ing ability between my iMac and Powerbook a handicap. I like the fact that I can access LT anywhere I have access to the Net, but of course if I don't (have a net connection) I can't access my data..

I know I'm probably asking for / suggesting the impossible - but if DL could either work with LT or develop the capabilities of LT, that would be great.

Cheers

Jeremy
I'm in agreement here. Some sort of syncing with LibraryThing would be awesome. Any idea of when the beta version will be live?
     
Delicious Monster
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Sep 7, 2006 , 05:29 PM
 
Ironically we were working on a pastry plug-in architecture that included a great blintz engine written by Alton Brown of FoodTV, but we had to shelf it due to a patent issue.

Also, am I the only one who thinks Anal Cuties of Chinatown III sucked compared to the first two? It's like they weren't even trying.
     
vandeebgroup
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Sep 22, 2006 , 01:47 PM
 
Please, please -- support for 7"/45rpm record format so the cover thumbnails show up in the correct size! Right now all my 7"s are as big as LPs on the shelves. Take pity on us indie rock vinyl nerds!

Also, I 2nd the suggestion for backcover art, or space for additional images of any kind. I'm used to manually importing data and artwork for all the rarities in my collection, so even if this capability were limited to manually inserting the additional images it would help me immensely.

Thanks,
Zack
     
Delicious Monster
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Sep 24, 2006 , 04:30 PM
 
Lo these many moons ago, a vinyl nerd wrote to us requesting different sizes for records. I responded that the percentage of users who have this problem is so small, it's pretty unlikely we're going to bother supporting this. His counter-argument was so compelling I pretty much added different sized records to Delicious Library 2 right then and there.
     
stainboy
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Sep 24, 2006 , 11:47 PM
 
care to share that counter-argument? as not a vinyl nerd (though i do appreciate the medium) i would like to hear what compelled you so.
     
vandeebgroup
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Sep 26, 2006 , 12:15 PM
 
DM: I love you.

stainboy: Don't know what that compelling counter-argument was, but for whatever it's worth here is mine... One of the bands I collect is The Cure, who has many, many releases on 7" from around the world. A few of the high points of my entire record collection are in this category. My 7" collection is worth several thousand dollars, and it is a major part of my overall music collection. It just seems right to see them at a smaller size than the LPs in the interface. Also, it kind of seemed to me that if there is support for audio cassettes, then there should be for 7" records. At least from my perspective, the audio cassette format is much less interesting/compelling from a collecting standpoint than are 7"/45s. Not that there aren't collectable cassettes, just that I don't know of any that are worth $1200 each.

I'm not completely unreasonable... I'd never expect support for my 10-inch records, Betamax cassettes with music videos, CDs in their original 80s cardboard "long boxes," minidiscs, 3" CDs, and all the other weird stuff in my collection. At least until version 3 that is. Ha.
     
Delicious Monster
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Sep 26, 2006 , 02:37 PM
 
The compelling argument went something like...

I can see why it isn't profitable or worth your time to support vinyl.

Vinyl collectors are a dying breed of enthusiasts who face daily pressure and ridicule for their obsession from coworkers, friends, and the internet at large.

Kind of like Mac users.
     
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Oct 11, 2006 , 01:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by Delicious Monster
Lo these many moons ago, a vinyl nerd wrote to us requesting different sizes for records. I responded that the percentage of users who have this problem is so small, it's pretty unlikely we're going to bother supporting this. His counter-argument was so compelling I pretty much added different sized records to Delicious Library 2 right then and there.
Any chance we can see a screenshot of this? Blur everything else out but this. PLEASE!? I have been waiting for a vinyl record collection in Library since 1.0!
     
Feynman
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Oct 11, 2006 , 01:33 AM
 
Originally Posted by Macint_sh
It would be nice if there was another "collection" for TV shows on DVD as this does not clarify as a movie and personally I hate the two being mixed because it sends a false record of how many movies I have.
I third. This would be much appreciated!
     
mdotcheung
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Oct 12, 2006 , 07:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by Macint_sh
It would be nice if there was another "collection" for TV shows on DVD as this does not clarify as a movie and personally I hate the two being mixed because it sends a false record of how many movies I have.
Oh oh oh! Just had a crazy idea!
What if you could opt to PLAY the selected TV show or Movie, if you had downloaded it from iTunes?
Quite alot of people are getting into ripping their DVD collection of movies and TV shows into Divx/MP4 format to save physical space. Being able to integrate it into iTunes/QT7 to playback the thing would be just sooooo awesome! Imagine - select Movie, assuming you have provided a link to the file's location on a hard disk, you click play, red curtains pulled aside, the screen fades to black, the show begins! That will trump Front Row for snazzy presentation skills!

Yes, i know that if you bought the stuff from iTunes, then its already there in that application... but from a previous poster's suggestion to have DL tally up the total net worth of your collections, i think it would be useful to add them to DL too.

Crazy pipedream?
     
Delicious Monster
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Oct 13, 2006 , 02:11 AM
 
Hmm, screenshots of Delicious Library 2... I don't know. That's a pretty tall order.

You have to sort of imagine Delicious Library 1, except, like, the records are in different sizes.

I'd attempt to render it in ASCII art, but I'd have to dig up my Apple ][...

Nah seriously though I'll ask Wil when he thinks we'll leak some screenshots.

Of course, the last time I asked him a question like this, he made me punch myself in the face.

As for launching your stuff in Delicious Library, check out the URL field in My Info.