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I am removing this as we know it's not true now.

You know, this really wouldn't surprise me, considering AppleInsider posted a preview last month stating it would ship in March. Yet here we are, April 1 and nothing yet but a twitter page full of posts from Wil about anything except DL status.

So, should I just email the email on the delicious-monster webpage to demand my refund or does Wil have a personal email to contact?

I hope LD is doing this to provoke a response from the 2005-2008 Failure to Launch Award Recipient.

i dont believe this. im sure there will be plenty more delays, but it's already been stated that the betas are moving along.

Sounds about as believable as as the statement that DL2 is shipping "soon".

Whatever that means

-t

Crappy as it is, even Vista finally shipped.

Yeah, but it didn't get shipley'd

-t

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See above.

it's not that i find this claim utterly inconceivable, it's just that there have already been a handful of delays matched with silence from DM. while it is odd we've gone through the entire alleged release month and heard nothing, it certainly isnt that odd in comparison to the past.

if another two weeks go buy without a word, i'll believe this much more. it would be pretty sad, were this to be true.

Why ? It can't get much worse.

As it stands now, DL2 will probably never ship.

If someone pays money for it, they for sure would want to earn it back. So chances are much better to get it actually out the door at some point.

-t

well what im wondering at this point: will apple revoke the design award and give it to the runner up? see, this is the problem with apple giving awards to ultra-alpha software. it seemed like an awful idea to begin with, and it's really unfair to developers who actually create real products, rather than vaporware.

@ turtle. i dont know exactly what youre saying here, (it wont ship... but it will?) but all im saying is that this silence isnt entirely atypical. a few more weeks of silence will seal it for me.

The only thing I care about right now is that the people that worked on the project got paid. If Adam Betts and everyone else that contributed to this thing got paid, that's all that counts.

I don't care if Wil doesn't get his Lamborghini.

Well I emailed the help@delicious-monster.com address earlier about some help with a refund. Who thinks I'll get a response?

well remember this was posted by wil with the original offering:

"To make my lawyers happy, I should mention that, SHOULD SOME unforeseen complication arise and we never ship Delicious Library 2, this deal is null and void. Sorry."

wil seems fair though, so he might give you your money back and just blacklist your serial for 1.6.7 or something. it think you have a 50/50 chance. well, 40/60. ok, 30/70.

I'm reluctant to jump into this (sometimes heated) conversation, but I've been following this release for some time now because I really want to use this app. Isn't that a new "coming soon" note at the top of the website?
And even if it isn't new, wouldn't they remove that "free upgrade" from their website asap if the release was now not in the works?

it certainly is new. this is exactly why i was waiting to jump to any conclusions.

but, anyway, again they say "coming soon" when you think they might learn no one at DM understands what the word "soon" means.

edit: the very fact that they went through the trouble of posting a note makes it seem it surely wont be out in the next few days. obviously, if there would be little point in writing up that short piece and making the graphics if it would be out shortly. they know it's gonna be a little while and they want to attract customers as long as possible.

See the below screen clip from their website: Delicious Library

Looks like it worked, sorta. Either that or Shipley is trying to sucker as many people as possible into buying DL1 at this point since he knows DL2 isn't coming.

This is a lie, and it's not even a funny lie. Delicious Monster is my livelihood and my life, and your idiocy is hurting it.

Delicious Monster is alive and very well. We are in beta right now for Delicious Library 2, and I am very happy with the beta so far. I am also personally very well-off and wouldn't need to sell this company even if my sales were nothing. I can prove this statement, and if any journalist wants to contact me and set the record straight I will provide documentation of my finances, as well as a look at the demo.

I have had up to two programmers in the past at Delicious Monster, and I have also worked alone as a programmer for much of the development of Delicious Library 1 and 2. I have discovered I'd rather program alone, but I do need support people to answer e-mail and the like. I originally hired both Lucas and Mike as support people, but both wanted to move into programming, and I taught them as best I could. They left when they had learned enough to leave the nest, which is how it should be. I have two wonderful support people right now who can't program a line, so I consider myself in an ideal position.

If any of you are duped by the original poster's lie and want to see for yourself, please just write to support@delicious-monster.com and we'll get you into the beta, and you can play with Delicious Library 2 yourself. It is very solid, very fast, and really pretty damn cool. (I would think that you would wonder why all the websites I list on delicious-monster.com have given me glowing reviews on the beta if it's really "too buggy to ever ship.")

For the guy who started this, and is perpetuating it, and certain others: I have to warn you that what you have done constitutes libel - you have lied knowingly and expressly to hurt me. I will be contacting my lawyers and subpoenaing your identity from this forum, although I am sure you've just used an alias. If I find you, though, you are going to court. Hope you enjoy it.

If the original poster is so certain of his facts, he should stand up and post his real name and contact information. If he does not do so, I urge the rest of you to consider the source. There are six billion people in the world, one of them woke up on April Fool's day and decided to take the "famous" Wil Shipley down a peg from behind a safe wall of anonymity.

The original poster has vague rumors posted on April Fool's Day.


I remain,
Wil Shipley
Chief Monster, Delicious Monster Software, LLC
Delicious Library
e-mail: wjs@delicious-monster.com
cell: 206.619.2561

To be fair most of those links are from October of last year and the thread did finally get a response from you.

Yes. Another way to get a response would be to WRITE ME instead of posting lies about my company on a forum somewhere. Also, that way wouldn't land you in court.

Luckily, with Larry's contact information and the incredibly inflammatory and clearly biased stuff he has posted about my company on his personal website (Larry @ Teamoverkill), it won't be at all hard to prove that he had an intent to injure me, which is one of the three tests of libel. (1: Is it false? 2: Does the person know it's false? 3: Are they saying it to hurt you?)

-Wil