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San Francisco mayor to re-examine plans for Union Square Apple Store
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May 30, 2013, 11:07 AM
 
San Francisco mayor Ed Lee says he will take a look at Apple's plans to build a new store at Union Square, the San Francisco Chronicle reports. Earlier this week the paper aired criticisms about Apple's proposal, which would include the presence of a long, blank wall along Stockton Street, and the removal of a popular fountain. Prior to the Chronicle's story, city politicians had expressed their support for the store.

Now, though, Lee says he hadn't realized the fountain was slated to be removed. "We weren't necessarily focused on that side," the mayor is quoted as saying. "It wasn't part of our discussion." He adds that he needs to "take a look and visualize" how the fountain might or might not complement a raised narrow plaza Apple wants between its store and the Grand Hyatt. "We have to see whether it might fit in."

Regarding the long wall, Lee says that city officials objected to it during initial talks, and that Apple had been "very receptive" to criticism. Union Square is a pedestrian-focused shopping district, and a large blank wall might disrupt the intended experience in the area.

Apple's layout still needs to be reviewed by city planning and historic preservation commissions, which could see critics' demands take fruition. The company hasn't made any new comments on the proposal, and the Grand Hyatt -- which owns the property, and the fountain -- says that "it's too premature" to talk about whether there might be changes.
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May 30, 2013, 11:19 AM
 
Well that's rather uncharacteristic of Apple. Why move the store that was already working fine for them, and why place the new store in the way of a city's touristy landmark? That's screwed up.
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May 30, 2013, 12:14 PM
 
Why move a store that was working for them? Have you been to that store? It's overwhelmed with people from the moment it opens until the moment it closes. It's very "characteristic" of Apple to move a store that's too small and too busy inside a mall to a bigger location. Why not move a stand-alone store? There's a subway construction site underneath the current store and that corner on Market Street has seen better days. After the Virgin Megastore closed, the next closest retail outlet is a Wallgreen's. Not exactly the usual neighbors of an Apple retail store... Union Square is the retail/shopping hub of downtown San Francisco, I'm surprised Apple didn't build there first.
     
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May 30, 2013, 01:22 PM
 
I always thought the original store location was a little odd.
From a purely anecdotal perspective, I can't recall ever seeing the afore mentioned fountain, and I've been to that area many times. Move the fountain? Why not?
I don't think it would be terribly difficult to do something interesting with the blank wall on the side either, but...
     
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May 30, 2013, 03:45 PM
 
Oh, THAT fountain.
Hmmm... Tough call. It's not a specific tourist stop, as in people from all over the world come to see it, but it does just barely pass as a local landmark, particularly if you frequently pass that block.
And who doesn't like a "water feature"?
     
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Jun 3, 2013, 05:48 PM
 
Good location for a new Apple store. Not a good idea to remove the fountain. It is incredibly detailed and quite beautiful. Personally, I visit that area quite regularly (1xweek) and always take a look at the fountain. If Apple wants to get San Franciscans in an uproar, then they should continue with the removal. If they want to look like the big corporation that respects local details, then leave it. Even if the majority of San Franciscan's rarely, if ever, visit the fountain, they will be up in arms because it is "their" city. It's a better PR move if they leave the fountain intact.
     
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Most of the San Francisco 'water features' that I'm aware of are nothing more than public toilets for the homeless. Check the fountains on Market Street, rather disgusting. And who among us has attended a Macworld Expo at Moscone Center, only to have to walk along streets permeated with the stench of urine whilst being panhandled into oblivion? I'd like to see the City put their efforts into improving those issues rather than hassle a major retailer who is investing heavily in the City's future. I would find an 80' wall along the sidewalk far less annoying or intrusive as the constant, unrelenting smell of human waste. Priorities San Francisco... as usual, you have them backwards.
     
   
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