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Apple allegedly in 'quiet jubilation' over Forstall's exit
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Oct 30, 2012, 06:56 AM
 
Scott Forstall's firing from Apple was greeted with "quiet jubilation" at the company, especially among engineering teams, according to GigaOm. The site quotes anonymous sources, one of whom claims that a number of workers were going out to celebrate with drinks. Forstall's exit is also described as being "fairly last minute," with many people on the iOS and OS X teams only hearing about it minutes before a press release reached the media.

Workers are said to be keen on Jonathan Ive assuming control of the new Human Interface group, but less certain about Craig Federighi, who they suggest needs to prove himself able to manage both the iOS and OS X teams. Previously Federighi was responsible for OS X alone, but he will now be taking over some of Forstall's core responsibilities. Forstall is already known to have been unpopular with some other Apple executives, especially Ive. His departure has reportedly been linked to refusing to sign an apology for the iOS 6 Maps debacle, but Apple has been silent on reasons for the corporate shakeup. Apart from Forstall, another executive on his way out is retail SVP John Browett, who was with Apple for less than a year but made some decisions that were extremely unpopular with Apple Store crews, leaving some of them without enough hours to earn decent pay.
     
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Oct 30, 2012, 07:44 AM
 
Wow! I wouldn't throw Scott Forstall under the bus! He's probably the most valuable free agent in the tech industry right now. Forstall was rumored to be the next CEO at one point. I wonder if Cook will regret firing Scott just like Jobs was fired from Apple. When Scott joins Samsung or Google, Apple might be in world of hurt.

In addition, Scott Forstall invented iOS. It was his idea to use a modified version of OSX for the iPhone. The iPod group wanted a custom OS. Thank goodness Forstall won or Apple would have been looking at a disaster trying to compete with Google's Android while implementing a new OS from scratch. In a way, by using a desktop operating system on the phone (before Google bought Android) was a revolutionary concept. The iPhone on day one provided developers with a lot of OS features only found on desktop operating systems, which is why it took so long for other companies to catch up.
     
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Oct 30, 2012, 08:01 AM
 
Originally Posted by Zanziboy View Post
Wow! I wouldn't throw Scott Forstall under the bus! He's probably the most valuable free agent in the tech industry right now. Forstall was rumored to be the next CEO at one point. I wonder if Cook will regret firing Scott just like Jobs was fired from Apple. When Scott joins Samsung or Google, Apple might be in world of hurt.
Honestly? The guy behind the recent debacles that were Siri and Apple Maps, not to mention his random use of "stitched leather" icons is going to put Apple into a world of hurt? How? It probably wouldn't have been so bad if he would have just admitted that while these projects were ambitious, huge undertakings, they weren't ready for prime time. The problem is, without Jobs to filter out Forestalls' bad or half baked ideas, he let his ego get in the way of making sound business decisions and pushed for premature releases of his software...and then refused to acknowledge when/if they had problems. Notice that while Jobs was still in charge, and they released Siri, they were forced to call it a 'beta'...maps should have been too.
     
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Oct 30, 2012, 08:07 AM
 
Originally Posted by Zanziboy View Post
Wow! I wouldn't throw Scott Forstall under the bus! He's probably the most valuable free agent in the tech industry right now. Forstall was rumored to be the next CEO at one point. I wonder if Cook will regret firing Scott just like Jobs was fired from Apple. When Scott joins Samsung or Google, Apple might be in world of hurt.

How much you want to bet that Microsoft is going to offer him fists full of money to move to Redmond...
     
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How much you want to bet that Microsoft is going to offer him fists full of money to move to Redmond...
How much you want to bet none of them are going to get Forstall, at least in the near future? That's probably the main reason he's not hauling boxes out this morning. I'd rather bet that Apple has allowed him to remain long enough to collect his vested stock options while in return getting a NDA on Apple's secrets & plans. No way Cook lets this guy waltz without a gag.
     
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How much you want to bet that Microsoft is going to offer him fists full of money to move to Redmond...
You think stitched leather would look good in Metro UI?
     
   
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