[DominikHoffmann]

I am wondering whether the time has come for buying an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax machine. I would like to see pretty good integration into OS X. What's out there, and what are your experiences?

[DominikHoffmann]

It looks like the HP OfficeJet d135/145 are pretty decent units. However, I wonder about their compatibility with Mac OS X, Jaguar in particular. Printer drivers are one thing. However, given that, in general, scanning is a real weak point in OS X, I wonder how that works with these units. The <specs list compatibility with OS X 10.1 and above, but can I trust that completely, or will I be disappointed?

[AEdwards]

Originally posted by DominikHoffmann:
I am wondering whether the time has come for buying an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax machine. I would like to see pretty good integration into OS X. What's out there, and what are your experiences?

DO NOT BUY EPSON!!!!


I bought a Stylus Scan 2500 from Epson about a year ago. The technology was less than one year-old when OSX came out, and they REFUSED to make drivers for it!

To this day, they still refuse! Some guy from another country wrote a hack to make the printer-part to work (I think he faked the OS into thinking it was an Epson 740), but it's not a great solution.

If someone else can throw a half-decent hack together, and Epson still refuses, that just leads me to the conclusion that Epson doesn't care enough about Apple customers.

Someone posted a way to get Jaguar to recognize it (as a printer-only), but many of the advanced features (high-res dithering, etc.) are totally missing, and the color is completely screwed up (red is made brown, violets are all blue).

And I still can't scan without purchasing some other guy's broken-ware (limited number of uses until you have to pay--no I'm not naming names).

I will never buy Epson-ANYTHING anymore and I suggest you all do the same. (Not to mention that their inks are very expensive.)

I was waiting for Jaguar to see if Apple would support it, but now I know that I need to get another printer. So I am also eagerly awaiting others' opinions on your subject--thanks.

I read in MacWorld (http://www.macworld.com/2001/08/feat...yingguide.html) that the HP 3-color ink-jets have a good print quality and don't gouge nearly as much as Epson for their inks. Anyone with experience with the HP all-in-one's?

[Sven G]

... Actually, if you read that guy's new SS2500 pages at

http://www.cblue.org/things/ss2500jag.html

http://www.cblue.org/things/ss2500.html

he also says that the new EPSON TWAIN driver works with the Stylus Scan 2500; it's also possible to use CUPS and Gimp-Print in 10.2 instead of his old, hacked driver (why didn't he update it by hacking the newest, Jaguar SC740 driver? That would have provided *all* EPSON's detailed settings). You could try the TWAIN driver (I have, among others, a SS2000, and it doesn't work with it - but it's also a sheetfed scanner, while the SS2500 one should be a "true" EPSON scanner):

http://www.versiontracker.com/morein...d=16027&db=mac

BTW, a *new* EPSON multifunction device (the Stylus CX3200, or something similar) is due next month, so it may be worth waiting for shopping (also for the previous posters) - and it *could* even be that the driver for the new device will work with "old" Stylus Scans...

Anyway, the HP OfficeJets (I have an "old" G85) are very good machines; here's a CNET review of the d145:

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0...?tag=pdtl-list

[Timothy Maxwell]

I own the HP d145 and it is a great printer, copier, fax and scanner. I use both a PC as well as my TiBook 800 running Jaguar. I have had trouble, however, installing the printer driver under OS 10.1. You can print under OS 10.1 but it is rather slow.

I have not had the opportunity to use it under Jaguar. When I do, I will let you know. But for sure, it works extremely well with the PC and pretty well under OS 9.

If I had to choose I would go with that printer. Any irregularities with the printer drivers will be addressed soon enough.

[slider]

You might want to reconsider buying an aio, I have an hp psc 950, by itself it's a great unit, but alas, no drivers for 10.2, so no printer, fax (this has a built in modem btw), nor scanner. In 10.1.x the drivers finally came and it worked great. For right now, you might want to hold off on an aio and get a regular printer that Apple writes drivers for, it's just too chaotic right now. I am working around the printer by sending the items to another computer running OS9, but that certainly is not ideal.

[AEdwards]

Originally posted by Sven G:
... Actually, if you read that guy's new SS2500 pages at

http://www.cblue.org/things/ss2500jag.html

http://www.cblue.org/things/ss2500.html

he also says that the new EPSON TWAIN driver works with the Stylus Scan 2500; it's also possible to use CUPS and Gimp-Print in 10.2 instead of his old, hacked driver

If it's not a Epson-sanctioned solution, I'm not interested anymore. I've been burned for too long. I want a solution that is sanctioned by Apple AND the printer manufacturer.

BTW, a *new* EPSON multifunction device (the Stylus CX3200, or something similar) is due next month, so it may be worth waiting for shopping (also for the previous posters) - and it *could* even be that the driver for the new device will work with "old" Stylus Scans...

Buy another Epson? Are you kidding? So they can stop supporting it when 10.3 comes out? I don't think so! Track record counts.

Anyway, the HP OfficeJets (I have an "old" G85) are very good machines; here's a CNET review of the d145:

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0...?tag=pdtl-list

Thanks for the review! I'll check it out.