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Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 01:43 AM

Looking for some mac benches on the 2 of these cards, liek head to head. anyone got a link? i can;t seem to find one, just a GF4 Ti vs a ATI 7500 on xlr8. thanX

Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 02:23 AM

Ok or let me ask this, if I go from a ATI 8500 64 meger to a geforce 4 ti 128 meger will I see a noticable increase in game framerates?

Agasthya · Jan 5, 2003, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
Ok or let me ask this, if I go from a ATI 8500 64 meger to a geforce 4 ti 128 meger will I see a noticable increase in game framerates?

Most probably. You're upgrading your graphics chip and doubling the memory...I'd say you should notice a framerate improvement in newer games.

xyber233 · Jan 5, 2003, 11:42 AM

Here ya go!
http://www.barefeats.com/graf31.html

Boochie · Jan 5, 2003, 03:40 PM

Another good resource for such comparisons is www.tomshardware.com. Not Mac-specific, but the relative benchmarks on those cards should be useful.

If you already have the Radeon 8500, I'm not sure the $400 for the GeForce 4Ti is worth your money. There aren't any games on the market that can take advantage of it's unique capabilities, and under OS X it uses the GeForce 3 drivers.

I have one mind you, but for me it was an upgrade from a 2MX. Big difference. Not sure if you'll see the same sort of improvement.

Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 03:43 PM

lol 400 bucks, lol. No I plan to spend no more that 150 total, time to pull in some favors with my apple buddies

I am looking to increase my gaming stuff, but i also use PS7 and maya on a daily basis, and thos all seem to be faster than my 8500.

Boochie · Jan 5, 2003, 04:21 PM

Well, that's a different story.

One potential benefit of the 4Ti over the 8500 is that it has both an ADC and DVI port, while the 8500 has just the DVI port and (presumably) a VGA connector too.

It's definitely an amazing card. With my old gfx card, I use to be able to run Star Trek Elite Force at 1024 x 768 with medium detail, and Medal of Honor at the same resolution with minimal detail. Now I run them both at max detail at 1280x1024. Same goes with Jedi Knight II.

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
lol 400 bucks, lol. No I plan to spend no more that 150 total, time to pull in some favors with my apple buddies I am looking to increase my gaming stuff, but i also use PS7 and maya on a daily basis, and thos all seem to be faster than my 8500.

Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 04:25 PM

So you have a GF4 Ti? whats system is it in? The games I'm looking to speed up are JK2, and MOH:AA. they run ok but they still lag a bit.

solitere · Jan 5, 2003, 05:02 PM

Does anyone know when we could expect the macversion of ATI 9700.

Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 05:05 PM

beats me, the BTO is avalible, but no word of a retail one. but MW is right here so who knows.

TheMosco · Jan 5, 2003, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
beats me, the BTO is avalible, but no word of a retail one. but MW is right here so who knows.

he was talking about the 9700Pro, the 9000Pro is the one available as BTO.

Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 05:13 PM

Whaaaa'?

TheMosco · Jan 5, 2003, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
Whaaaa'?

you said that the 9700 is available as BTO, but its not.

Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 05:33 PM

really i thought it was.

Boochie · Jan 5, 2003, 06:04 PM

I have it in a G4/867 (single processor), 640 MB of RAM. I suspect that the CPU is the limiting factor in my system now.

Regarding the Radeon 9700: the retail version of the 9000 isn't even available yet, so who knows when a 9700 might appear. Vaporware for now.

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
So you have a GF4 Ti? whats system is it in? The games I'm looking to speed up are JK2, and MOH:AA. they run ok but they still lag a bit.

Liquidity X · Jan 5, 2003, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by Boochie:
I have it in a G4/867 (single processor), 640 MB of RAM. I suspect that the CPU is the limiting factor in my system now.

Regarding the Radeon 9700: the retail version of the 9000 isn't even available yet, so who knows when a 9700 might appear. Vaporware for now.

Yha I just upgraded my DP 450 to a DP 800 sysem, how do ganmes run on yer system? and what ones do you play?

Boochie · Jan 6, 2003, 07:57 AM

Right now I'm plyaing JKII the most. The multiplayer game can take advantage of your second CPU, so I'd anticipate you'd see better performance on that with the GeForce 4Ti card than I do. On my machine it's amazing at 1280x1024.

To a lesser extent I've played Medal of Honor, Star Trek Elite Force, and the RTCW demo. All run extremely well with the 4Ti card. It's like night and day compared to my old GeForce 2MX, which I suppose should be no surprise. Over the weekend I tried the X-Plane demo, which was smooth as silk at 1280x1024. Alas, it's not a combat simulator so flying around became rather boring after a while, even on Mars.

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
Yha I just upgraded my DP 450 to a DP 800 sysem, how do ganmes run on yer system? and what ones do you play?

Boochie · Jan 6, 2003, 08:23 AM

Looks like the Radeon 9000 is now available for retail, according to a macnn story today!

Take a look at www.insidemacgames.com; they just did a comparison of the GeForce 4Ti to the Radeon 9000. While the GeForce is faster across the board, the Radeon may well be a more cost-effective solution. Of course, if one can get a GeForce on the cheap, that's a different story.