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Feb 4, 2003, 12:13 AM
 
I'm looking for a drive to write DVDs. Does it matter to my home theater's DVD player whether I use DVD-RAM, DVD-R, etc.? Why is the DVD-RAM drive so inexpensive [relatively]?


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Feb 4, 2003, 01:08 AM
 
Probably because DVD-RAM is not supported as well as DVD-R/RW (or even +R/RW) for both data and video applications. Until recently I didn't see much benefit to any of the DVD formats (-RAM, -R/RW, +R/RW). However, I was at Best Buy last week and saw a Panasonic E30 DVR. This is a consumer VCR-like device that uses both DVD-RAM and DVD-R discs instead of VHS tape. I realize this isn't directly computer related. But after reading all the features on this thing I'm wondering why the F the computer industry ever got away from -RAM.

While the Panasonic E30 can use DVD-R discs too, all the best features are only available with DVD-RAM discs. Even worse, competing products from Pioneer and Toshiba (-R/RW) and Philips (+R/RW) are simply not able to match the impressive features of the Panasonic when using -RAM. The Panasonic can do TiVO-like time shifting (ie pause live TV, playback while recording on the same disc), and hard drive-like video editing when using -RAM. The +/-R/RW formats can't do any of that. Even on a computer you still need to edit everything on your hard drive before burning -/+R/RW discs, not so with -RAM discs! Of course, the -R (and more recently +R) discs can be played back in most standalone DVD players while -RAM, -RW, and +RW can't. So you really need -R capability (or +R) if you want to make a DVD that will play in most standalone players. Still, it's a shame the electronics industry and the computer industry couldn't get together and support -RAM on everything. Maybe I'm missing something here, but DVD-RAM sure seems more powerful to me as both a computer user (for data) and VCR replacement (for video). Just MHO of course......joe
     
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Feb 4, 2003, 08:22 AM
 
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Does it matter to my home theater's DVD player whether I use DVD-RAM, DVD-R, etc.?
Which player? In any case if you get a DVD-RAM drive, get one that supports DVD-R as well. Better yet, get one that supports DVD-RAM/-RW/-R.

But after reading all the features on this thing I'm wondering why the F the computer industry ever got away from -RAM.
Because it was originally aimed more for data backup. That said, it's seeing a resurgence, specifically because of the existence of multi-format drives, and because of home recording (eg. DMR-E30). Interesting, both Windows XP and Mac OS X.2 support hard-drive-like drag and drop support on DVD-RAM.

Toshiba (-R/RW)
Toshiba is in fact a big backer of DVD-RAM. I have a Toshiba DVD-ROM drive that supports DVD-RAM, and their flagship standalone DVD recorder is DVD-RAM/-R (and a hard drive).
     
   
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