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Apr 3, 2003, 03:18 PM
 
I won a 'untested, faulty' iPod on Ebay (it was cheap £90, thare is no way I can afford £299 for a new one)
It looks is real good nic, no scratches etc.
It came in it's box with FW cable and wall plug (no headphones though ). I plugged it in, assuming it required charging up at least, the Apple appeard on the screen and I left it to charge up.
When I pluged it into my G4 (10.2.4) there was no change, the Apple logo remained. The iPod doesent mount or show up in the Apple Profiler. I have tried reseting (Menu & Play buttons) but I can't get it into FW Disk mode (FF & RR buttons, after reset). I have tried the 'battery' reset, (pull the iPod apart and unplug the battery for 15 mins).
Anybody got any ideas? or have I wasted my money, I will just stick it back on eBay.
     
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Apr 4, 2003, 06:25 AM
 
I don't have any ideas, I just think it's weird you were surprised to recieve a non-working iPod, after it was called 'untested, faulty'.


My name's ...uh... it's a bummer man.
     
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Apr 4, 2003, 10:31 AM
 
Originally posted by IEEE1394:
I don't have any ideas, I just think it's weird you were surprised to recieve a non-working iPod, after it was called 'untested, faulty'.
I was no way 'surprised' I knew it didn't work.
maybe the batery was 100% flat and it neaded a 'battery reset'
maybe it just neaded the firmware reinstaling.
maybe it's one of the early ones with the 'dry solder'on the Firewire plug, problem (an easy fix, when you ar a dab hand with the soldering iron)
     
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Apr 4, 2003, 12:38 PM
 
Go ahead and run the diagnostic tests... you might figure out whats wrong.

From ipoding.com...

To enter Diagnostic Mode: Reset, at Apple logo press and hold "Previous", "Next", and "Action"

The Tests:

A. 5 IN 1 - runs J through N
B. RESET - you guessed it, Reset
C. KEY - allows 5 seconds to press all buttons, if any don't respond or time expires it fails
D. AUDIO - apparently checks audio subsystem; a Pass returns "0X00000000 DONE" and if you have your earbuds in you'll get a beat.
E. REMOTE - when it fails to find the remote control it returns "RMT FAIL"
F. FIREWARE - apparently checks FireWire bus; a Pass returns "FW PASS"
G. SLEEP - goes to sleep; requires reset to wake (unless we didn't wait long enough)
H. A 2 D - apparently checks power subsystem; test unit returned "3.7V 0X000000E2 CHG OK FW 1 BAT 1" Update: running this test with while charging results in different voltage reading and FW 0

I. OTPO CNT - scroll wheel response represented as hexadecimal
J. LCM - tests display, requires pressing "Action" to advance through 3 patterns
K. RTC - not sure what it does but the test unit returns "0X0000000C" Update: After restoring with iPod Updater 1.0 test unit returns "0X00000010" Update: Reader John B. suggests that this may be "Real Time Clock" and reader Jukka A.'s reports of variation in results along with our own observation lend credence to it.
L. SDRAM - memory; test unit returns "PASS"
M. FLASH - pretty sure it's the rom version; test unit returns "0X00005281" Note: this will be different depending on the build of the firmware installed
N. OTPO - our best guess: checks for "Action" down with no scroll wheel movement
--With Software 1.2 this test behaves differently: ScrollWheel iPods list the test as above, but it can not be activated. TouchWheel iPods list the test as "Wheel A2D" activating results in a screen with "Wheel A2D" and a bar, a reset (hold "Menu" and "Play") is required to exit.
O. HDD SCAN - hard drive; will take several minutes
P. RUN IN - runs continuous tests of chipsets (we think); LCM, RTC, SDRAM, OPTI, HDD (controller), TI1394
     
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Apr 4, 2003, 03:08 PM
 
Well I just ran the serial of this ipod through Apple's warranty page, and it's still within the waranty period. So I am sending it off to Apple to see what happens.
     
   
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