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Apr 19, 2003, 04:58 PM
 
How would I go about playing Gamecube on an Apple 20" LCD?

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Apr 19, 2003, 05:28 PM
 
I think you would have to go -
GameCube -> Mac -> LCD

That formac white box will let you do it, for a price.

There may be a simpler way though
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Apr 19, 2003, 08:26 PM
 
yea I thought I'd have to go through the computer... does anyone know if this is what I need?

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/3604725

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Apr 19, 2003, 09:45 PM
 
well if there's such a thing as a good DVI output device for the gamecube it's worth a shot with a dvi adapter.
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Apr 19, 2003, 09:55 PM
 
Originally posted by Mac Zealot:
well if there's such a thing as a good DVI output device for the gamecube it's worth a shot with a dvi adapter.
I guess... there's an output on the Gamecube that says "Digital output..." but I don't know what kind of cable corresponds to it.... and I'd prefer to have it go through the computer, so I wouldn't have to unplug the monitor.

Another question... does the Gamecube support widescreen resolutions?
     
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Apr 19, 2003, 11:00 PM
 
Originally posted by saltines17:
I guess... there's an output on the Gamecube that says "Digital output..." but I don't know what kind of cable corresponds to it.... and I'd prefer to have it go through the computer, so I wouldn't have to unplug the monitor.

Another question... does the Gamecube support widescreen resolutions?
Well even if you found a decent Gamecube DVI converter (which I couldn't come across even after 15 minutes of Google searching for you, sorry) then you'd hafta get a DVI-to-ADC converter from either Geffen or Apple. You can easily, however, find Gamecube VGA converters, and if you added a PCI card that accepted a VGA input into your Mac, you could run that straight through and output to your 20" Display.

Also, about your widescreen question. Yes, *some* Gamecube games are desgined to output in a widescreen format and/or are optimized for HDTV styled screens, which of course the 20" Display fits that bill. It'll say on the back of the game along w/ the amount of Players possible and the Compatible Accessories if it's HDTV/Widescreen enhanced.
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Apr 19, 2003, 11:37 PM
 
Originally posted by AssassyN:
Well even if you found a decent Gamecube DVI converter (which I couldn't come across even after 15 minutes of Google searching for you, sorry) then you'd hafta get a DVI-to-ADC converter from either Geffen or Apple. You can easily, however, find Gamecube VGA converters, and if you added a PCI card that accepted a VGA input into your Mac, you could run that straight through and output to your 20" Display.

Also, about your widescreen question. Yes, *some* Gamecube games are desgined to output in a widescreen format and/or are optimized for HDTV styled screens, which of course the 20" Display fits that bill. It'll say on the back of the game along w/ the amount of Players possible and the Compatible Accessories if it's HDTV/Widescreen enhanced.
So I need a PCI card that accepts VGA input, alright... do you know any examples? I'm not really sure I've seen a VGA input. And, so, if I connect the Gamecube to the computer via a VGA PCI card, then how do I get to see the Gamecube on the screen? Sorry, I'm a little confused with the setup...

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Apr 20, 2003, 12:14 AM
 
Originally posted by saltines17:
So I need a PCI card that accepts VGA input, alright... do you know any examples? I'm not really sure I've seen a VGA input. And, so, if I connect the Gamecube to the computer via a VGA PCI card, then how do I get to see the Gamecube on the screen? Sorry, I'm a little confused with the setup...

Thank you very much for the Google work, hehe
Well dang...lol, another 15 minutes on Google resulted in no Mac-compatible PCI add-on cards w/ a VGA input. Hmm...this wouldn't be nearly as difficult if the display you were trying to connect to was VGA or even DVI, but ADC is hard to get to, escp. from something that's not a Mac. My only other hunch is that if you can get a "real-time" video capture card that'll shoot signals that are being input to it back out the output of your main video card, it could possible input a RCA or S-Video signal from the Gamecube & display it through the ADC Display. Of course, real-time cards come at real-time prices: Click Here

Hopefully someone else has a simpler solution, but I kinda doubt it, and I'm not even 100% sure the method I just suggested would work perfectly. Good luck!
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Apr 20, 2003, 12:22 AM
 
Originally posted by AssassyN:
Well dang...lol, another 15 minutes on Google resulted in no Mac-compatible PCI add-on cards w/ a VGA input. Hmm...this wouldn't be nearly as difficult if the display you were trying to connect to was VGA or even DVI, but ADC is hard to get to, escp. from something that's not a Mac. My only other hunch is that if you can get a "real-time" video capture card that'll shoot signals that are being input to it back out the output of your main video card, it could possible input a RCA or S-Video signal from the Gamecube & display it through the ADC Display. Of course, real-time cards come at real-time prices: Click Here

Hopefully someone else has a simpler solution, but I kinda doubt it, and I'm not even 100% sure the method I just suggested would work perfectly. Good luck!
Ahh.... damn... Well, yeah, that's a liiiiittle out of the price range... ah well, thanks anyway....

Any other suggestions?

What about that thing I linked to in an earlier post?
     
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Apr 20, 2003, 08:51 AM
 
Originally posted by saltines17:
Ahh.... damn... Well, yeah, that's a liiiiittle out of the price range... ah well, thanks anyway....

Any other suggestions?

What about that thing I linked to in an earlier post?
Well, that item you linked to earlier simply converts presentations, movies, slideshows, etc. that you've created on your PC into an RCA or S-Video signal that you can show through your TV. In other words, it's a really expensive S-Video/RCA out for your computer if one's not already on the video card.

There is absolutely one way to do it that will work, the only thing is I don't think you can do it w/o disconnecting your Mac everytime, but hey, it'll get the job done.
First, you'll need THIS HERE to convert the AV signal out of the Gamecube into VGA. Then, you'll need THIS HERE to convert that VGA signal into an ADC signal that your Apple Display will recognize. It'll cost ya, but it'll do the trick. Hope that helps!
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Apr 20, 2003, 10:52 AM
 
Originally posted by AssassyN:
Well, that item you linked to earlier simply converts presentations, movies, slideshows, etc. that you've created on your PC into an RCA or S-Video signal that you can show through your TV. In other words, it's a really expensive S-Video/RCA out for your computer if one's not already on the video card.

There is absolutely one way to do it that will work, the only thing is I don't think you can do it w/o disconnecting your Mac everytime, but hey, it'll get the job done.
First, you'll need THIS HERE to convert the AV signal out of the Gamecube into VGA. Then, you'll need THIS HERE to convert that VGA signal into an ADC signal that your Apple Display will recognize. It'll cost ya, but it'll do the trick. Hope that helps!
dont think so.. the gefen page says the monitors will only work at their native resolution when attached. the VGA adapter for the gamecube is probably 640x480 or 800x600 -- nowhere near the 1680x1050 of the 20" CD. and, anyway, for $350 there are better ways. get an S-Video input box/card for the computer with real-time previewing (a tv tuner card is probably more likely to have this) and play the gamecube through there. it would either be a window on the desktop or full screeen, if you choose (though not necessarily widescreen).
     
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Apr 20, 2003, 11:42 AM
 
assasyn, that is more expensive than my method

There are a few other things.. see if you run the gamecube directly to your monitor, you will probably get a higher resolution.

Anyway, you can get a formac studio, or any other capture device, but as far as direct-connecting there IS the dvi tv tuner viewsonic makes, which might cover at least half of your screen
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Apr 20, 2003, 03:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Mac Zealot:
assasyn, that is more expensive than my method

There are a few other things.. see if you run the gamecube directly to your monitor, you will probably get a higher resolution.

Anyway, you can get a formac studio, or any other capture device, but as far as direct-connecting there IS the dvi tv tuner viewsonic makes, which might cover at least half of your screen
Oohhh.. the Viewsonic thing looks nice... (Why is the 1280x1024 one $300 more than the 1024x768 one?!).. I still don't understand how it connects to the screen though... This Viewsonic box connects directly to the screen? So, through VGA or whatnot?

Is there some type of PCI video card that has the red/white/yellow inputs, and could I use it that way?

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Apr 20, 2003, 09:43 PM
 
That would be cool if there was some sort of video switch box. Doesn't Dr Bott make something like that?
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Apr 20, 2003, 10:38 PM
 
Ohhh... that "VGA Box" looks nice... $50, too... not bad. ( http://www.levelsix.com/products/gam...A_redant.shtml )

I do have a 15" VGA LCD connected, too, so I could use that... but I'd rather use the 20"

How does the "VGA Box" compare to the Viewsonic "VB50HRTV?" ( http://www.viewsonic.com/products/vi...x_vb50hrtv.htm )

Obviously, the Viewsonic costs about double and allows TV connections... but I'm thinking I may as well get the TV too...

How does the Viewsonic box connect to the computer? Is it also VGA?

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Apr 21, 2003, 02:23 AM
 
There should be a DVI viewsonic box.

You buy an apple DVI to ADC adapter, plug monitor into the adapter, adapter into box, and plug computer's DVI (or adc with another converter) into the viewsonic's input

It'll be a bit pricey, but work very nicely
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May 3, 2003, 05:33 AM
 
Hi there

There is a german TV PCI card, now with NTSC an english support.

http://www.meilenstein.de/


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May 3, 2003, 10:17 AM
 
Originally posted by angelmb:
Hi there

There is a german TV PCI card, now with NTSC an english support.

http://www.meilenstein.de/
HEY.... that looks good!!

Anyone ever used this before who would like to comment?
     
   
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