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Jun 8, 2003, 07:37 PM
 
Has anyone using a Powerbook been able to dial a phone number (or sms) from address book using a p800? I am able to sync and connect to the internet. If I have a bluetooth connection with my phone in address book, it will tell me that I have a call, but I can't pick it up from address book. I just want to know if anyone has done this. Have calls into apple and they're trying to sort, and I've tried a number of things. Just really looking to see if anyone has been successful.
     
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Jun 8, 2003, 09:10 PM
 
Originally posted by techjunkie:
Has anyone using a Powerbook been able to dial a phone number (or sms) from address book using a p800? I am able to sync and connect to the internet. If I have a bluetooth connection with my phone in address book, it will tell me that I have a call, but I can't pick it up from address book. I just want to know if anyone has done this. Have calls into apple and they're trying to sort, and I've tried a number of things. Just really looking to see if anyone has been successful.
Whos your provider and how much did you pay for your p800 just curious.
     
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Jun 8, 2003, 09:26 PM
 
Originally posted by yoyoman:
Whos your provider and how much did you pay for your p800 just curious.
Tmobile is my Provider. Paid 700 bucks for the phone. Not from T-mo - purchased it unlocked.
     
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Jun 9, 2003, 12:18 PM
 
what does unlocked mean in this circumstance? I have been thinking of getting one of these (p800) so any info is usefull
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Jun 9, 2003, 12:44 PM
 
Originally posted by Mike Pither:
what does unlocked mean in this circumstance? I have been thinking of getting one of these (p800) so any info is usefull
Unlocked means that it's not tied up to any one provider. I own an unlocked Sony Ericsson t68i and in my case it means I can pop in a Norwegian SIM card and get a norwegian phone number when I visit my parents (who live there).

Practically speaking, it allows you to switch SIM cards on the fly. Most wireless companies only allow you to use the phone on their network (since they sponsor the phone and you sign a contract). ATT Wireless and Cingular will not give out the SIM unlocked code unless you give them an arm and a leg.
T-mobile, on the other hand, is an international company and has no problems doing this for you.
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Jun 9, 2003, 12:50 PM
 
Originally posted by sbjordal:
Unlocked means that it's not tied up to any one provider. I own an unlocked Sony Ericsson t68i and in my case it means I can pop in a Norwegian SIM card and get a norwegian phone number when I visit my parents (who live there).

Practically speaking, it allows you to switch SIM cards on the fly. Most wireless companies only allow you to use the phone on their network (since they sponsor the phone and you sign a contract). ATT Wireless and Cingular will not give out the SIM unlocked code unless you give them an arm and a leg.
T-mobile, on the other hand, is an international company and has no problems doing this for you.
Followup: the p800 is a GSM phone. The GSM phones use a little datacard (SIM). This SIM card stores your phone #, settings and some contact information. You can take your SIM card out of any GSM and pop it into any (unlocked) GSM phone, and your phone # and info is tranferred. This is why GSM is often recognized as a Worldphone, and is why you can use a GSM phone nearly worldwide.

Hope this helps. This is a very simplified explanation.
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Jun 9, 2003, 01:33 PM
 
Thanks very much for the replies it's clear now. In Italy where I live all phones (as far as I know) must all be unlocked because you can always swap sims from different providers to different phones. There are no "subsidised" phones here. You buy a phone and get a sim seperately. Most people don't have contracts as such you simply "charge" your sim with however many euro you want from the internet / bank cash machine etc. when you want.
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Jun 9, 2003, 01:47 PM
 
Originally posted by Mike Pither:
Thanks very much for the replies it's clear now. In Italy where I live all phones (as far as I know) must all be unlocked because you can always swap sims from different providers to different phones. There are no "subsidised" phones here. You buy a phone and get a sim seperately. Most people don't have contracts as such you simply "charge" your sim with however many euro you want from the internet / bank cash machine etc. when you want.
Can I use a p800 with verizon you think. Even though verizon uses cdma. I really want that phone but I have to use verizon. Thats what my folks are using. I like the bluetooth featuer and pda feature but mostly the bluetooth with osx.
     
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Jun 9, 2003, 02:45 PM
 
Originally posted by yoyoman:
Can I use a p800 with verizon you think. Even though verizon uses cdma. I really want that phone but I have to use verizon. Thats what my folks are using. I like the bluetooth featuer and pda feature but mostly the bluetooth with osx.
You are fresh out of luck The p800 is GSM only. Sony Ericsson just announced the T608, which is essentially the t610 for CDMA. Not sure if Verizon will add it to their collection of phones though.
Unfortunately, with CDMA you're stuck with the phones the wireless provider offers, as it's programmed for their network and services
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Jun 9, 2003, 02:50 PM
 
Originally posted by Mike Pither:
Thanks very much for the replies it's clear now. In Italy where I live all phones (as far as I know) must all be unlocked because you can always swap sims from different providers to different phones. There are no "subsidised" phones here. You buy a phone and get a sim seperately. Most people don't have contracts as such you simply "charge" your sim with however many euro you want from the internet / bank cash machine etc. when you want.
Unfortuntately, we're not there yet here in the US. Things are looking better though.
Hehe, I still remember the first SMS capable cokemachine I saw in Norway. You send an SMS to a number, you immediately receive an reply with a #. You punch the # into the coke machine and Voila! Soda in your hand. Your phonebill gets charged the price of the soda.
Pretty Pimp, huh :-D
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Jun 9, 2003, 02:54 PM
 
Originally posted by sbjordal:
Unlocked means that it's not tied up to any one provider. I own an unlocked Sony Ericsson t68i and in my case it means I can pop in a Norwegian SIM card and get a norwegian phone number when I visit my parents (who live there).

Practically speaking, it allows you to switch SIM cards on the fly. Most wireless companies only allow you to use the phone on their network (since they sponsor the phone and you sign a contract). ATT Wireless and Cingular will not give out the SIM unlocked code unless you give them an arm and a leg.
T-mobile, on the other hand, is an international company and has no problems doing this for you.
You can unlock a phone by sending it off to one of many aftermarket companies. Costs about a tenner. You can do it yourself if you have the right pieces of hardware... I used to hang around on alt.cellular.nokia where there were plenty of people explaining how to do it.

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Jun 9, 2003, 04:00 PM
 
Back to my original question - has anyone had any success making phone calls or sending sms messages from address book on their mac using a p800 bluetooth connection? I can't seem to find anyone. . .

Thanks for the help!
     
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Jun 10, 2003, 12:13 AM
 
Searching for someone who's gotten AddressBook working with the P800 is like searching for the Northwest Passage.

In other words, there's no such thing.

I've looked far and wide, and found no one who's had any luck.
     
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Jun 10, 2003, 07:21 AM
 
Thanks. I figured as much. I haven't had much luck with Apple either. They sometimes act like I don't know what I'm talking about. I guess I should take the small victories. Isync and connecting to the Internet are pretty cool. I just hate when they say you can do something, but you really can't. I'll keep you posted with progress from Apple.

Thanks again.
     
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Jun 10, 2003, 10:42 AM
 
Originally posted by techjunkie:
Back to my original question - has anyone had any success making phone calls or sending sms messages from address book on their mac using a p800 bluetooth connection? I can't seem to find anyone. . .

Thanks for the help!
Where in the syncing process do things fail for you? Is it when the syncing starts, is the p800 reconized by iSync etc? Are you able to pair the phone to the mac etc? Can you exchange files, like pictures?

Give us some more info....
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Jun 10, 2003, 12:44 PM
 
The syncing process works fine. I can exchange contacts with .mac, p800, Ipod, and Address book. I can also connect to the Internet via my P800 using bluetooth.

In addition to these functions, I am also supposed to be able to dial and sms from address book once my phone and computer are linked via bluetooth. When I click on the bluetooth icon in address book, it turns blue and there is an active connection. From here, if you click on a phone number label (home for example) a drop down appears with 3 options, including dial and sms. If I try to sms, the sms window appears, I type the message, hit send, but nothing happens. When I click the dial option, nothing happens. If however somebody is calling me during the time I have the connection, a box appears telling me who is calling, but I can't answer the call or send to voice mail. If somebody sends an sms message and I have the connection, nothing happens.

I think that about covers it. Any ideas?
     
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Jun 12, 2003, 04:03 PM
 
Originally posted by techjunkie:
The syncing process works fine. I can exchange contacts with .mac, p800, Ipod, and Address book. I can also connect to the Internet via my P800 using bluetooth.

In addition to these functions, I am also supposed to be able to dial and sms from address book once my phone and computer are linked via bluetooth. When I click on the bluetooth icon in address book, it turns blue and there is an active connection. From here, if you click on a phone number label (home for example) a drop down appears with 3 options, including dial and sms. If I try to sms, the sms window appears, I type the message, hit send, but nothing happens. When I click the dial option, nothing happens. If however somebody is calling me during the time I have the connection, a box appears telling me who is calling, but I can't answer the call or send to voice mail. If somebody sends an sms message and I have the connection, nothing happens.

I think that about covers it. Any ideas?
You got me...Seeing as synching works and using it as a modem works too, I'm inclined to think that the problem is not a connectivity related, but prob. something in the communication between the software on the p800 and the mac. Sorrry, I know I'm stating the obvious..
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Jun 12, 2003, 06:14 PM
 
Pretty much the answer that I got from Apple. I hope they fix it, but kind of a bummer!
Thanks for trying.
     
   
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