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kstor · Sep 30, 2003, 01:35 PM

http://www.iogear.com/products/product.php?Item=GME223R

Finally a mouse that implements the usb cable as charger idea: when your battery starts running out, plug the mouse in with the usb cable and use it wired while it charges from your computer battery.

Also 2 buttons and scroll wheel.

Now they just have to make it Bluetooth and brushed aluminium (Kensington Mouseman Traveller anyone?) and I'd buy it.

KStor

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Sep 30, 2003, 02:11 PM

So buy that one then, Apple just lost a sale.

kstor · Sep 30, 2003, 02:35 PM

The whole reason I want a wireless mouse in the first place is convenience. I have a Albook, so a bluetooth mouse could be totally hassle free.

Having a non bluetooth (ie with a proprietary usb receiver, as for most wireless mice), non-rechargeable batteries (apple) or no scroll wheel (apple again) all create a bigger inconvenience than they save, thus until a mouse has neither of these defects I'm sticking with my corded mouse.

This iogear mouse is the closest to perfect I've seen so far, the only thing missing is Bluetooth.

chingas · Sep 30, 2003, 07:05 PM

That mouse LOOKS like

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kstor · Sep 30, 2003, 08:20 PM

So true... but functional.

For most everything, Apple has Form and Function. For mice, they just have form.

Kenneth · Sep 30, 2003, 09:59 PM

I dig things from IOGear.

chingas · Sep 30, 2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by kstor:
So true... but functional.

For most everything, Apple has Form and Function. For mice, they just have form.

I understand the gripe some have with the one button mouse. But, for me, the Apple mouse IS form and function.
I tried a multi-button mouse(MS Intellimouse) and I just didn't like it. I prefer to use my left hand for hot keys and modifiers and my right hand for a one-button mouse. It's a matter of preference.
Yet, I wonder why Apple refuses to make a multi-button mouse....

Eug Wanker · Sep 30, 2003, 11:56 PM

What Apple's BT mouse should have been

What, RF?

MickS · Oct 1, 2003, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by chingas:

Yet, I wonder why Apple refuses to make a multi-button mouse....

CS: Click the right mouse button

Customer: Okay

CS: Now, click the left mouse button

Customer: I've only got one mouse, it's on the right.

Powaqqatsi · Oct 1, 2003, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by MickS:
CS: Click the right mouse button

Customer: Okay

CS: Now, click the left mouse button

Customer: I've only got one mouse, it's on the right.

Pleeeasse stop giving that excuse. I NEVER met someone who doesn't know the difference between a left or right mouse button. You have to be a complete retard not to understand the difference. I know a lot of people who are not that computer-savvy or even not that intelligent and they can ALL deal with the concept of 2 buttons.
The only thing that's retarded is Apple's mouse.[/vent]

vvedge · Oct 1, 2003, 12:53 PM

4 foot radius? so instead of buying a mouse with a cable thats 4 feet long, I buy and expensive mouse that has about the same range.

get serious. RF.. last century, Bluetooth all the way!

exa · Oct 2, 2003, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Pleeeasse stop giving that excuse. I NEVER met someone who doesn't know the difference between a left or right mouse button. You have to be a complete retard not to understand the difference. I know a lot of people who are not that computer-savvy or even not that intelligent and they can ALL deal with the concept of 2 buttons.
The only thing that's retarded is Apple's mouse.[/vent]

You've obviously not met enough people.

slider · Oct 2, 2003, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by vvedge:
4 foot radius? so instead of buying a mouse with a cable thats 4 feet long, I buy and expensive mouse that has about the same range.

get serious. RF.. last century, Bluetooth all the way!

Argggg, that is not what he was saying. Read the friggin posts.

MickS · Oct 2, 2003, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Pleeeasse stop giving that excuse. I NEVER met someone who doesn't know the difference between a left or right mouse button. You have to be a complete retard not to understand the difference. I know a lot of people who are not that computer-savvy or even not that intelligent and they can ALL deal with the concept of 2 buttons.
The only thing that's retarded is Apple's mouse.[/vent]

I know a number of people that have problems using a computer. Using a mouse is a complex thing to them. Having to talk them through things over the phone is tricky with a one button mouse. The fewer choices they have the easier it is to help them.

Just because you've not come across people that have problems with computers doesn't mean they don't exist.

thePurpleGiant · Oct 2, 2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by exa:
You've obviously not met enough people.

Agreed. When teaching *so many* people simple things at uni, It will go like this, nearly every time:

Them: How do I change blah blah in Word?
Me: Oh, just right click on it and go to 'properties'
Them: I did, nothing happened.
Me: Did you right click?
Them: What?
Me: Right click - did you click with the right mouse button or the left one?
Them: Umm, I dunno.
Me: Okay well click with the right mouse button.
Them: Oh, yep, got it.

And these aren't old fogies - just 'normal' 20 year old people. (not nerds like all of us)

vvedge · Oct 2, 2003, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by slider:
Argggg, that is not what he was saying. Read the friggin posts.

I know he would like a bluetooth version. I was just expressing my disdain at the fact its still RF. so boo.

vvedge · Oct 2, 2003, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by exa:
You've obviously not met enough people.

I'll admit it. I had a windows PC for at least half a year before I figured out there was a right-click. And i'm pretty computer savvy. Just with the Mac I never had to differentiate two clicks.

Is it so hard to push the control button?

Powaqqatsi · Oct 3, 2003, 01:17 PM

Well, it just seems strange to me. Everyone I know doesn't have any problems with it. And most people I know aren't computer-savvy at all. (altough I can't really prove it since I rarely talk about computers outside these boards with anyone) Well, anyway you could be right. But I IF you need to learn the difference between left and right click; it can't be be that difficult, can it ? And once you used it you don't forget about it. My next apple mouse I'll use will be a 2-button+scroll before that I'll never use a one-button again. And for the last comment: it's VERE annoying to have to push the control button.

elmer · Oct 3, 2003, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
it's VERE annoying to have to push the control button.

Then don't use context menus so much.

Seriously, using one button is simpler. It may be slower in a lot of ways, but it's simpler. And although I'm perfectly capable of using mice with many buttons, and it may speed things up, that doesn't necessarily improve the experience overall, because speed isn't everything. Sometimes simplicity is just more attractive.