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time for a new p800 thread: anyone having trouble with it and isync?
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Oct 30, 2003, 10:09 AM
 
i have been having a hec of a time trying to get my new g5 dualy to sync correctly with the p800...out of 138 contacts, some would sync...then others....some not at all...tried resetting devices which just eventually ended up hanging the machine with a message to restart...why so difficult?
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Oct 30, 2003, 10:53 AM
 
ok....anyone..not having trouble?
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Oct 30, 2003, 01:25 PM
 
last attempt...
has no one found any workarounds for this? someone must be using this phone!?
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Oct 30, 2003, 02:10 PM
 
Give people time to respond.. We are not all in the same timezone you know.
     
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Oct 30, 2003, 02:30 PM
 
People have been having a hell of a time getting the two to work since day one.

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Oct 30, 2003, 03:31 PM
 
sorry, u r right..i was just getting impatient since this has been driving me nuts! i nassumed when i bought a phone that apple claimed it would be supporting that almost a year later it would be totally integrated...what gives? why is it so difficult? why wont sony erricson port the software that they give us for the pc which has a lot more functionality than isync even tries to have?
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Oct 30, 2003, 06:16 PM
 
What OS and version of iSync are you running?

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Oct 30, 2003, 07:16 PM
 
I'm using iSync 1.3, P800 with old firmware and the latest bluetooth update on my PB12" RevA and still on Jaguar 10.2.8.

Bottom line is that synchronising works 95% of the time. Occasionally if waking from sleep, the P800 doesn't quite connect and the sync fails. I usually reconnect by pressing the BT button in Address Book and it always works.

Since iSync 1.2, I have had full synchronisation between Adress Book and iCal on the selected Calendars. The first time of getting 1.2 to synchronise took three goes to pull over 1,000 contacts and all calendar items but once synced, everything has been plain sailing since.

I also use .mac to synchronise between the P800, the PB and an iMac at home. I can pair the P800 to either Mac and iSync is happy but I choose to use the PB as the master data source.

In summary, my P800 - PB12 comination is working fine. What we need to do is identify the specific problems with your setup.
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Oct 30, 2003, 07:29 PM
 
Some more info. Here's what the system log says after a succesful connection and synchronisation. What does your say?


Oct 31 08:26:01 TonyG4PowerbookRv mach_kernel: IOBluetoothRFCOMMConnection::newUserClient
Oct 31 08:26:34 TonyG4PowerbookRv mach_kernel: IOBluetoothRFCOMMConnection::newUserClient
Oct 31 08:26:34 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: pppd 2.4.0 started by rasPUTIN, uid 501
Oct 31 08:26:34 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: Using interface ppp0
Oct 31 08:26:34 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/tty.mRouter
Oct 31 08:26:37 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: local IP address 169.254.1.68
Oct 31 08:26:37 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: remote IP address 169.254.1.5
Oct 31 08:27:45 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Oct 31 08:27:51 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: Connection terminated.
Oct 31 08:27:51 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: Connect time 1.2 minutes.
Oct 31 08:27:51 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: Sent 11161 bytes, received 91694 bytes.
Oct 31 08:27:51 TonyG4PowerbookRv pppd[3098]: Exit.

Logfile is located /var/logs/system.log


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Oct 30, 2003, 08:18 PM
 
What bluetooth adapter do you have?

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Oct 31, 2003, 10:58 AM
 
i am using an iogear usb bluetooth adapter...
i always assumed that they were all the same..dont they all use the same standard tranmission/receiving protocol? maybe not since apple mentions dlink as being a more reliable one in the support notes. is there a reason anyone can think of for why you cant reset specific devices with isync? the choice is only there to reset them all.
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Oct 31, 2003, 10:53 PM
 
Since my upgrade to 10.3 and iSync 1.3, I have been having difficulty in getting my computer to even connect to my phone. On the rare occasion that it does, it correctly syncs.

Oddly enough, Apple's support site mentions that if you're having problems syncing a Nokia 3650 (what I have) or a P800 (both are Symbian series60 based), try turning the phone on and off a couple times. Great solution.......

Still doesn't work half the time.

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Nov 1, 2003, 09:41 AM
 
Ha! yeah krove, i saw that too and was like, WTF!? so the phone is that sketchy? i dont know , i kind of mainly blame SE. the software for the pc they make is actually pretty elegant and backs up everything on the phone, including memory stick data..there is no way to even see whats in memory with isync..SE should mke the same software for the mc too IMHO
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Nov 2, 2003, 02:37 PM
 
The sync functions mac/P800 is so problemativ so it's sick. I can sync in about 60-70 % of all tries. The rest of time it doesn't work. I've spent all Sunday to resolve my problems once for all. I only discovered new ones. I think _every_ aspect of bluetooth, iSync, P800 contacts etc have failed at least once. I even had a system crash because of sync failure (yes, i'm telling the truth! error message from iSync and the system crash)

My latest problem is that the second time I try to tranfer contacts to the P800 with the newer bigger pictures, it doesn't work (it worked first time of course, so the phone is already full of them!). Except for the normal random sync problems, I get the message that there isn't memory enough on the P800. I have now created 5 MB free on it, but it's still not happy! I read on the SE site that all 12 internal MB can be used for contacts if you feel like it, and I only use 600 KB, so that shouldn't be a problem. Turning the P800 off and on doesn't help.

I have a PB 1 GHz, 10.3, D-link bluetooth, R2D software on phone, R5A bluetooth on it.

It also pisses me off bigtime that I _still_ can't send sms with Address book and P800. Apple should be ashamed! [ http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25570 ]
     
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Nov 2, 2003, 08:16 PM
 
im so fed up i just decided to bag it completely. i thought everything was fine after magically with one random sync it seemed to get everything right...next time i go to sync it duplicates every contact in the address book. i too had the system crash.. a nice greyed out windowshade comes down and the start button appears saying i need to restart...this is ridiculous.
i used to push apple for its ease of use without reservation. since osx i have found some things just not being so easy( and others much easier), so i just have a less than rosey feeling about apple now. i still would prefer to be using them but when i can do all i need to do with my p800 without issues on the pc it just makes me mad.
why so long with the solutions to this problem..is it the phone or apple? im pissed at SE for not making their software available to macs as well. lazy.
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Nov 5, 2003, 05:11 AM
 
I'm using my P800 with iSync under Panther (iSync 1.3). When I can establish a bluetooth connection this works. However making the bluetooth connection is a bit hit and miss.

I find that I can rarely run two syncs back to back and have a connection made. Most of the time the BT connection problems can be fixed by switching the P800 in and out of flight mode. Occasionally I need to restart the Mac. On occasion the only way to get it to work has been to delete the pairing and start again.

I have always had problems with iSync when I've allowed it sync with .Mac. The .Mac sync introduces random changes, even though I don't change anything there (can you?), which seem to confuse iSync and make a mess of everything. As long as I leave .Mac out of the equation everything is fine.
     
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Nov 10, 2003, 09:47 PM
 
alright so i was an idiot...i figured out a solution that so far seems to have solved the problems. i think when i got my new dualy, i copied over the address book and calenders...this must have caused all sorts of problems when syncing. i deleted all the files associated with ical and isync ...mainly, those in libraries and app support. i then removed the p800 from the list and reset my .mac to the computer info (which was none at that point) i then added back the p800 and synced the addresses to .mac. then went from .mac to the computer. this seems to have done the trick and now no more error messages or kernal panics...phew! lets hope it holds...guess the lesson is dont try to carry info over when going to a new system...do it from .mac.
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Nov 20, 2003, 09:43 AM
 
I got a P800 today and had no end of trouble getting it to sync with the Firewall in operation. iSync asked for Port 3004 to be opened. I did, it didn't work...

Switching off the firewall seemed to resolve the problem - but I was unhappy with that.

So I started checking in my P800 to see what I could fiddle with.

And I might have a solution to a lot of problems with iSync via Bluetooth. I am now happily synching through the MacOSX firewall.

I'm assuming you've paired your P800 and your Mac...

On the P800. If you go to [Applications] (the four dots on the top menu bar), then scroll down to [Control panel] - open it.

Now select the [Connections] tab at the bottom of the screen.

Select [Bluetooth]

Your Mac's name should be visible on the [Devices] panel. Select your Mac.

A new window opens.

There is a check box labeled 'Allowed to connect without confirmation'

CHECK THE BOX! (by default it is empty)

Click [Done] and [Done]

Try synching again. With any luck you are now talking.

Hope that helps at least some people,

Mike.
     
   
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