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Parky · Mar 10, 2004, 06:37 AM

Have you seen this ?

http://www.starbriteltd.com/

I can't see Apple being very happy!!!

Ian

rhansen_x · Mar 10, 2004, 10:48 AM

Looked at it earlier.

Web site is down now. Here is a pic:

http://www.handango.com/pictures/699318/screen1.gif

Parky · Mar 10, 2004, 10:57 AM

The page works OK for me.

::maroma:: · Mar 10, 2004, 11:06 AM

I look at this kind of stuff and just shake my head. It's amazing how many completely uncreative people there are in this world. And it just makes me love Apple that much more.

Zim · Mar 10, 2004, 12:15 PM

Hey, if someone finally "married" a PDA with sufficent storage,
I'd happily buy it over the iPod I have now. I've always been
amazed that no PDA has slapped on a HD.

And LOL, if someone copies Apple, they are uncreative. And every non-copied interface gets called ugly and cumbersome.

Apple needs to advance what the iPod can do, or they'll be like Palm and PDA.. started the market, owned the market.. lost the market by failing to innovate.

For me innovation is all about increasing function, and converging the # of devices I need to carry around. I would be thrilled to have some PDA functionality that also had LOTS of mp3 storage, and would jump for joy if an API was public so that I could program such a beast.

Mike

::maroma:: · Mar 10, 2004, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Zim:
And LOL, if someone copies Apple, they are uncreative. And every non-copied interface gets called ugly and cumbersome.

Precisely. There is no creativity involved in flat out copying someone else's creation. There is a difference between copying something and gaining inspiration from something. And not every original interface gets called ugly and cumbersome. Just the ones that are ugly and cumbersome.

talisker · Mar 10, 2004, 01:26 PM

So anyone that produces any sort of emulator is not creative? I think with macophiles there's a tendency to equate creativity with physical design. i.e. if it looks the same as something else no creativity was involved. I suppose to make this software they just pushed an ipod into a PDA, and voila?!

::maroma:: · Mar 10, 2004, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by talisker:
So anyone that produces any sort of emulator is not creative? I think with macophiles there's a tendency to equate creativity with physical design. i.e. if it looks the same as something else no creativity was involved. I suppose to make this software they just pushed an ipod into a PDA, and voila?!

Have you looked at this thing? It is a DIRECT ripoff of the iPod interface. And no, there isn't any creativity involved in doing that. And I'm talking pure aesthetics here, not functionality. So "emulator" wouldn't fall under my argument, per se.

And I wasn't talking about the physical design of the product either. It's obviously not a ripoff of the iPod. I am talking about someone sitting down to DESIGN an interface. He/she decides, "Hmm.. I can't come up with anything on my own, so I'll just take what someone else has created and copy it pixel by pixel." Call me silly, but I think that is the exact opposite of creativity.

One might as well run a photocopy of a Dali painting, stick it in a frame and say "Look at what I created! Isn't it wonderful??" Sure, there was some work involved in running the photocopy, and sticking it in a frame. But creativity? I don't think so.

nobitacu · Mar 10, 2004, 05:08 PM

Oh well, no matter what they do, it's still not a iPod. They can keep dreaming.

Ming

KP* · Mar 10, 2004, 10:49 PM

I see it more as somebody who obviously likes the iPod paying tribute to it by wanting to be reminded of it by the interface on their PDA. There are lots of PDA apps (launchers, audio players, etc.) that have many Mac-style skins (and Windows-style skins, and Matrix-style skins and so forth) because the creators and users enjoy the appearance of that interface and want it to grace more of their software. I don't think any of them thought for a moment they were being "original," they just wanted more Mac style in their lives.

rhansen_x · Mar 11, 2004, 08:41 AM

For some of us, we need the pda but also want the iPod. Emulators like this offer us the best of both worlds in one device. I have an iPod which I paid for, and a company owned pda. If this would have been out earlier, I would have bought this and saved myself some serious $$$.

Zim · Mar 11, 2004, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by rhansen_x:
For some of us, we need the pda but also want the iPod. Emulators like this offer us the best of both worlds in one device. I have an iPod which I paid for, and a company owned pda. If this would have been out earlier, I would have bought this and saved myself some serious $$$.

Agree with the sentiment completely. (this from a guy who has owned Macs since the Apple ][+ and owns an iPod).

What's the storage capacity?

Thanks,
Mike