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antizero · Apr 2, 2004, 04:42 AM

I'm looking to buy a 40GB iPod, and was curious to know where I might find some quality accessories. Specifically, I'm looking for an armband for it that A.) doesn't cost $40 like the one on the Apple site, and B.) isn't the bulky/ugly "Tune Belt" that's plastered all over eBay.

Follow-up question - for you athletes who use an iPod during workouts - do those little ear buds stay in when you run?

And finally - is it possible to keep all my music on the iPod and none on the computer, and just download iTunes music directly to the iPod? Would I still be able to control the library and playlists through iTunes?

drive-thru · Apr 2, 2004, 11:48 AM

For the first two: Don't know, haven't looked/tried. I guess since you're looking at the 40Gb iPod that a mini is too small in terms of storage. This would probably be better for exercising to, but if you need the storage then it's not really an option.

Three: If you set up iTunes so that you control the music on your iPod manually and not have it automatically update when you connect it you can. I tried this briefly and you can move all your music over to the iPod, then when you connect it you can play the music (which is on your iPod) through iTunes (playlists too).

-Word of warning, if you choose to delete all your music and only keep it on the iPod you will A) need an app to get it back off the iPod onto your computer if you ever want to, and B) risk losing any music which is not backed up (consider burning a few backup mp3 CDs or DVDs).

antizero · Apr 3, 2004, 01:43 AM

I'll keep DVD-R backups of my music, I just don't want to fill up my hard drive with iTunes in the long run. I finally put a binder full of CDs (one of three) into iTunes and it's already at 4.8 GBs, so I don't think the mini is going to cover me

PS - these are all store-bought CDs. And as a new Mac user, I'm absolutely in love with iTunes!

tooki · Apr 3, 2004, 04:28 AM

You would not be able to perform any significant song management on the iPod if you delete them from the Mac -- if you leave auto-update on, in fact, you would instantly lose all the songs you deleted on the Mac, since auto-update keeps the iPod the same as the Mac (the opposite is not possible!).

Just bite your lip and keep the MP3's on the Mac. Hard drive space is cheap!

tooki

slider · Apr 3, 2004, 12:57 PM

www.ipodlounge.com

talisker · Apr 4, 2004, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by tooki:
You would not be able to perform any significant song management on the iPod if you delete them from the Mac -- if you leave auto-update on, in fact, you would instantly lose all the songs you deleted on the Mac, since auto-update keeps the iPod the same as the Mac (the opposite is not possible!).

Just bite your lip and keep the MP3's on the Mac. Hard drive space is cheap!

tooki

Are you sure? Surely you can do pretty much anything you'd want even if you delete from the Mac. Just make sure you have the iPod set to manual update, otherwise it will automatically delete all the iPod music when you delete it from the Mac. i.e. set it to manual BEFORE you delete the songs from the Mac! You just select the iPod as the source in iTunes and you can still set up playlists etc.

The only real issue is not having a backup of your music, but let's face it the risk of losing all your iPod data is very small, and even if you do, it's a pain in the arse at worst, rather than say losing digital photographs which would be irreplacable. You can after all recode your CDs, even if it would take ages.

I don't understand why people are so dismissive of this scenario - let's face it there's surely lots of us like me who's iPod is bigger than their Mac hard drive?

Apple Pro Underwear · Apr 4, 2004, 08:03 PM

the athlete earbud question:

NOT IN MINE...HOWEVER i have yet to find one that does when you are moving/twisting/running/jogging in general very well.

I would say all athletes who use the iPod for exercise get a good over the head sport headphone...like this:

sweat doesn't soak it and it's just less crap all up in your grill when you either run/or lift

tooki · Apr 5, 2004, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by talisker:
Are you sure? Surely you can do pretty much anything you'd want even if you delete from the Mac. Just make sure you have the iPod set to manual update, otherwise it will automatically delete all the iPod music when you delete it from the Mac. i.e. set it to manual BEFORE you delete the songs from the Mac! You just select the iPod as the source in iTunes and you can still set up playlists etc.

You see, that's the catch: you can't set an iPod as a source. It shows up as a list, but the contents of the iPod are grayed out. You can see what's on it, but you cannot drag anything from the iPod.

So yes, I am quite sure. If you set it to manual and then delete all the songs on the Mac, they won't be deleted immediately on the iPod, but they will be once you update manually.

tooki

talisker · Apr 5, 2004, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by tooki:
You see, that's the catch: you can't set an iPod as a source. It shows up as a list, but the contents of the iPod are grayed out. You can see what's on it, but you cannot drag anything from the iPod.

So yes, I am quite sure. If you set it to manual and then delete all the songs on the Mac, they won't be deleted immediately on the iPod, but they will be once you update manually.

tooki

Well your iPod & iTunes must work differently to mine!

If I set my iPod to update manually, then I can select it as a source, and the contents are not grayed out (as they are when it's on auto-sync). I can delete all the iTunes songs and they remain on the iPod. If I rip new music into iTunes, I can then drag it to the iPod to add it. Nothing bad happens to all the other songs sitting on the iPod but not in iTunes.

Casper Crane · Apr 6, 2004, 02:31 PM

also you can use iPodRip to take full control of your iPod.

Link · Apr 6, 2004, 02:48 PM

Okies.. first off if you're doing running and it's not in an enclosed place (and even then), the last thing you want to be doing is running around with headphones on.. seriously.

mattyd · Apr 6, 2004, 04:11 PM

www.everythingipod.com

Casper Crane · Apr 6, 2004, 05:06 PM

now, i don' t run any more. i've lost use of my legs due to chronic laziness...

but i disagree about running with music in your ears. i think you are right that it is not safe if you are running in the city and have to listen for cars.

but when i ran, back in the day, i did it in the woods. soft ground, clean air, no people. cross country is so much better than track!

i ran with music often, and you can run a lot longer and harder if you have something in your ears other than wax.

still, i appreciate your concern for others.

wuzup101 · Apr 7, 2004, 01:05 AM

I don't see any problem with running with headphones on. I would recomend a pair like the one's pictured above. I personally use sony's in that style for running. Run so you can see traffic and use common sense... only those who don't get hurt.

Maflynn · Apr 7, 2004, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by Casper Crane:
now, i don' t run any more. i've lost use of my legs due to chronic laziness...

LMAO :

I typically run on treadmill, at least during the winter, and I see a myriad of people with headphones on (more and more ipods). Outside there's less of pod people running. For me, I want to purchase the mini and get one of those arm bands (and a good pair of headphones).

Mike