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driven · Jun 29, 2004, 02:47 AM

Do the new displays have power buttons that also control the power of the G5? (Kind of like the older ADC monitors had?) Or, would I be back to having two separate power controls?

RevEvs · Jun 29, 2004, 07:54 AM

I'm hoping they actually have a button to let you turn them off! Don't like how i have to change the energy saver settings to 1 minute when i want the current cinema display to turn off.

driven · Jun 29, 2004, 08:54 AM

I found it oddly conspicuous that this issue wasn't addressed at all.

MaxGuru · Jun 29, 2004, 11:26 AM

I have looked and looked, and can't find any sign of the monitor power button. The tech document does not mention it. I'm afraid that the loss of ADC also means the loss of the button.

I love having the button. I like to keep the PowerMac off the desk and the button made it easy to put the machine to sleep when I was through. I rarely power off the machine so that isn't so important. I will have to start using keyboard commands for sleep (is there any).

Simon · Jun 29, 2004, 11:30 AM

1) stay cool.
2) type ctrl-eject
3) type s
4) enjoy.

chabig · Jun 29, 2004, 11:34 AM

I think Apple says it pretty clearly here. "Tucked away on the side of an Apple display are the only controls you really need: brightness and power."

Chris

driven · Jun 29, 2004, 11:52 AM

Yes, but is that just power for the monitor, or power for the PC as well?

chabig · Jun 29, 2004, 12:36 PM

I'm sure it's just power for the monitor. Why would anyone want a power button for the computer on their monitor? The computer is never shut down, it is put to sleep. And if you do want to shut it down, that's done through software (under the Apple menu) and it's powered up from the keyboard.

Even Windows PCs are shut down through software, not a power button.

Chris

tooki · Jun 29, 2004, 12:42 PM

DVI doesn't have the wiring for a power switch. So Apple is either implementing it over USB (in which case you could just unplug the USB cable!), or it's only a power button for the display.

Since Apple now officially supports their displays on PCs, I suspect it's the latter.

tooki

driven · Jun 29, 2004, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by chabig:
Why would anyone want a power button for the computer on their monitor?
Chris

The current Apple ADC monitors have a power button on them. :-)

I like it.
Could I live without it? Probably. I'm kinda spoiled at the moment.

motti · Jun 29, 2004, 03:22 PM

It says in the specs:

User controls (hardware and software): Display power, system sleep, system wake, brightness and display tilt ]

MaxGuru · Jun 29, 2004, 03:24 PM

I found the controls. If you look at the Apple Hardware page for the new monitors and look at the "high resolution photos" there is a side view. Here is a magnification of that photo:
Monitor Switch Magnified

I guess we really had nothing to worry about.

Luca Rescigno · Jun 29, 2004, 03:29 PM

Save your backlight while leaving your computer running - switch off your monitor when you walk away. What if you are on a slow connection and you need to just leave your computer on for a few hours while you run some errands? Do you want those 4 hours to be subtracted from the overall life of the backlight, leading to an early LCD death? Backlights last a long time, but all those hours add up.

I always switch off my CRT monitor when I leave my desk. I don't want to put my computer to sleep every time I walk away. It disconnects me from AIM, stops any network activity, and so on. Having a power button for JUST the LCD is a GOOD THING!

motti · Jun 29, 2004, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
Save your backlight while leaving your computer running - switch off your monitor when you walk away. What if you are on a slow connection and you need to just leave your computer on for a few hours while you run some errands? Do you want those 4 hours to be subtracted from the overall life of the backlight, leading to an early LCD death? Backlights last a long time, but all those hours add up.

I always switch off my CRT monitor when I leave my desk. I don't want to put my computer to sleep every time I walk away. It disconnects me from AIM, stops any network activity, and so on. Having a power button for JUST the LCD is a GOOD THING!

Isn't switching a display (especially an LCD) on and off frequently damaging it more than leaving it running with a screensaver?

motti · Jun 29, 2004, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by MaxGuru:
I found the controls. If you look at the Apple Hardware page for the new monitors and look at the "high resolution photos" there is a side view. Here is a magnification of that photo:
Monitor Switch Magnified

I guess we really had nothing to worry about.

Well I think the small light could be the system wake/sleep button as on the previous models

MOTHERWELL · Jun 29, 2004, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by tooki:
DVI doesn't have the wiring for a power switch. So Apple is either implementing it over USB (in which case you could just unplug the USB cable!), or it's only a power button for the display.

Since Apple now officially supports their displays on PCs, I suspect it's the latter.

tooki

Yes. I have the original cinema display which is DVI. It also plugs into my USB port. I can then go into the Monitors pref pane and choose if I want the monitor to power my computer or not.

I keep it on becuase I run my powerbook with the lid closed.

MOTHERWELL · Jun 29, 2004, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
Save your backlight while leaving your computer running - switch off your monitor when you walk away. What if you are on a slow connection and you need to just leave your computer on for a few hours while you run some errands? Do you want those 4 hours to be subtracted from the overall life of the backlight, leading to an early LCD death? Backlights last a long time, but all those hours add up.

I always switch off my CRT monitor when I leave my desk. I don't want to put my computer to sleep every time I walk away. It disconnects me from AIM, stops any network activity, and so on. Having a power button for JUST the LCD is a GOOD THING!

I have my display go to sleep after 10 minutes of inactivity. That way I don't have to remember to turn it off.

tooki · Jun 29, 2004, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by motti:
Isn't switching a display (especially an LCD) on and off frequently damaging it more than leaving it running with a screensaver?

Absolutely not true.

tooki

MaxGuru · Jun 30, 2004, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by motti:
Well I think the small light could be the system wake/sleep button as on the previous models

You are right. The switch does act as a power switch if the Mac is shut down. It acts as a sleep/wake switch when the Mac is running.

iDaver · Jul 1, 2004, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Simon:
1) stay cool.
2) type ctrl-eject
3) type s
4) enjoy.

Another quicker keyboard command for sleep is option-command-eject. I was not aware of control-eject. That's handy for shut down and restart too. Thanks.

TailsToo · Jul 1, 2004, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by iDaver:
Another quicker keyboard command for sleep is option-command-eject. I was not aware of control-eject. That's handy for shut down and restart too. Thanks.

WOW! I never knew that one!! Thanks!

escher · Jul 1, 2004, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by iDaver:
Another quicker keyboard command for sleep is option-command-eject.

That's very nice! There was an instant sleep keyboard-combo on my PowerBook 520c, but I never found it again on later PowerBooks.

On my iBook, I currently hit the power button to invoke the sleep/restart/shutdown menu and then hit "S" to sleep. I'll have to remember option-command-eject for instant sleep.

Escher