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Espen Isaksen · Jul 14, 2004, 10:39 AM

http://thinksecret.com/news/augustipods.html

tekno_geek911 · Jul 14, 2004, 10:44 AM

Oh man...I wish I can wait for the new model! Is this source reliable?

Randman · Jul 14, 2004, 10:47 AM

Damn, and just this afternoon, I went and put in my order for a Mini.

Espen Isaksen · Jul 14, 2004, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by tekno_geek911:
Oh man...I wish I can wait for the new model! Is this source reliable?

They got pretty reliable rumors.

tekno_geek911 · Jul 14, 2004, 10:50 AM

If the new iPod's come in color and theyre smaller wouldnt that kill mini sales?

Espen Isaksen · Jul 14, 2004, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by tekno_geek911:
If the new iPod's come in color and theyre smaller wouldnt that kill mini sales?

I agree, Don't really understand that one. I am hoping for a color screen though, and some way to transfer images to it(better that Belkin).

tekno_geek911 · Jul 14, 2004, 10:57 AM

I dont really care for colors or a color screen but the click wheel would be pretty cool...I just dont wanna regret buying the current model.

Spheric Harlot · Jul 14, 2004, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by tekno_geek911:
I dont really care for colors or a color screen but the click wheel would be pretty cool...I just dont wanna regret buying the current model.

It's a kick-ass machine.

How could you ever regret buying it if it does what you wanted it to do when you placed the order?

Positive outlook, but really: There's ALWAYS a new model around the corner.

-s*

tekno_geek911 · Jul 14, 2004, 11:03 AM

I have owned a 3G iPod before so I know theyre great...It just wont be up to date.
Maybe I should go for a mini since I carry my PB at all times.

ajprice · Jul 14, 2004, 02:47 PM

tekno_geek911, the most important thing to think about is if you get an iPod mini, a silver one would match your powerbook pretty well, with all the silver aluminium and stuff.

tekno_geek911 · Jul 14, 2004, 03:05 PM

I think im gonna go for the iPod mini since its smaller/cheaper....I really love the green one but silver would look nice next to my 'Book.

iDriveX · Jul 14, 2004, 03:35 PM

The 4G iPod is going to have the same Dock Connector we love, but it will be slightly smaller an thinner than the current iPods (not near the size of the mini). The main difference will be that the Mini controls (touch wheel with buttons on the wheel) will move it's way onto the 4G iPod. Advances in battery technology have allowed for a slightly smaller case design. That's all I know.

Espen Isaksen · Jul 14, 2004, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by iDriveX:
The 4G iPod is going to have the same Dock Connector we love, but it will be slightly smaller an thinner than the current iPods (not near the size of the mini). The main difference will be that the Mini controls (touch wheel with buttons on the wheel) will move it's way onto the 4G iPod. Advances in battery technology have allowed for a slightly smaller case design. That's all I know.

I'm not going to ask where you have this information from, but do you know anything about battery time?

kpne1home · Jul 14, 2004, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by iDriveX:
The 4G iPod is going to have the same Dock Connector we love, but it will be slightly smaller an thinner than the current iPods (not near the size of the mini). The main difference will be that the Mini controls (touch wheel with buttons on the wheel) will move it's way onto the 4G iPod. Advances in battery technology have allowed for a slightly smaller case design. That's all I know.

If the battery have been advanced and is smaller, I think that they should keep it the same size and have a longer battery life unless it is already good enough small. Thats the only thing that I would need for improvement for my ipod. Well an easy way to hook up to my car too but battery life is defiantly number 1.

iDriveX · Jul 14, 2004, 10:16 PM

The information received was not technical in nature at all, just from a sales & marketing perspective. I know that doesn't make any sense but I have no information on hard drive, or what is different about the unit internally.

Parky · Jul 15, 2004, 06:20 AM

My guess at the new iPod is as follows:-

Same colours and overall design as the Mini, using the new combined wheel and buttons. Larger size of course but a bit slimmer than the current versions.

Screen will be the same as the current iPod, but better quality.

Sizes 20GB, 40GB, 60GB

Battery life 8 hours, no improvement there.

Prices, same as the current range.

The problem is that all the manufacturers of iPod accessories will now need to do a complete redesign - cases, voice recorders, fitted speakers, etc, etc as they will not match or in many cases not fit.

Ian

Spheric Harlot · Jul 15, 2004, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Parky:
The problem is that all the manufacturers of iPod accessories will now need to do a complete redesign - cases, voice recorders, fitted speakers, etc, etc as they will not match or in many cases not fit.

This has been the case with every revision so far.

And I certainly hope that the voice recorder will be a superfluous accessory, come 4G iPods...

-s*

Parky · Jul 15, 2004, 07:57 AM

I think the voice recorder will still not be part of the core product.

Apple seem to have a good set-up with the manufacturers of accessories, I think they like this model.

i.e. keep the base product simple so that it suits everyone's needs and let the people who need more functions 'add' them via accessories.

If they start adding more and more, the product becomes bloated and looses it's 'simple' appeal.

My view is that less than 10% of buyers need a voice recorder so they will not add it to the core product, as the other 90% don't want to use it or more importantly pay for it.

Ian

velodev · Jul 15, 2004, 08:58 AM

I think the colors are horrible. I would probably seek out a 3G iPod on eBay before I bought a color-encased 4G iPod.

Please, keep the novelties to the mini. Just like the Powerbook, make the higher end component professional looking. This isn't a carnival.

Randman · Jul 15, 2004, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by velodev:
I think the colors are horrible. I would probably seek out a 3G iPod on eBay before I bought a color-encased 4G iPod.

Please, keep the novelties to the mini. Just like the Powerbook, make the higher end component professional looking. This isn't a carnival.

You think the colors are horrible?

The colors haven't been announced yet, just a rumor. Although, I believe you accidently hit it right on because the novelties are being kept to the Mini (and we all know how those carnival colors have been such a failure).

Please, keep the sniping at bay until after the announcement and you see the colors and see what they look like.

Parky · Jul 15, 2004, 10:05 AM

You could always go for Silver...

llvaporll · Jul 15, 2004, 10:31 AM

i am trying to figure out how this rumor could relate to/impact cram n jam

Spheric Harlot · Jul 15, 2004, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Parky:
I think the voice recorder will still not be part of the core product.

[...]

My view is that less than 10% of buyers need a voice recorder so they will not add it to the core product, as the other 90% don't want to use it or more importantly pay for it.

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear:

I meant that the custom voice recorder would be unnecessary because Apple would finally build-in real recording capability - though not necessarily the mic itself.

-s*

Spheric Harlot · Jul 15, 2004, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Randman:
You think the colors are horrible? The colors haven't been announced yet, just a rumor. Although, I believe you accidently hit it right on because the novelties are being kept to the Mini (and we all know how those carnival colors have been such a failure).

Yes, indeed. Total disaster.

I mean, *pink*!?

Apple said that there was a 162% increase in its music-based revenues, and that it was experiencing "staggering" demand in the US and "unprecendented" preorders worldwide for the iPod mini.

****ing pink is killing the company.

-s*

llvaporll · Jul 15, 2004, 10:41 AM

Yes, indeed. Total disaster.

I mean, *pink*!?

funny, because that is the most popular color....

BrunoBruin · Jul 15, 2004, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by llvaporll:
funny, because that is the most popular color....

I think that was Spheric's point. The "experts" here predicted that nobody would buy a mini at $249 when you could get a much larger iPod for $50 more, and that pink was the second coming of Flower Power.

Apple is known for throwing curve balls, but I would be shocked if they did not offer a white iPod in the new line. It's an iconic image. Just look at their advertising. They don't even need to show the actual device any more; just the white shape with a screen and everyone knows it's an iPod.