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Apple 23" Cinema Display vs. Dell 2405FPW
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Apr 23, 2005, 08:38 PM
 
I have been doing a bit of research on these two monitors and just have a couple questions.

1) Obviously the Dell seems to have some better specifications, on most levels. Is there any technical reason to pick the Apple over the Dell. I.e., it may have truer color correctness compared to print, or some other technical fact about the two that I am missing. I am looking for technical reasons only, not style, company, warranty, etc...

2) The Apple is listed as a 23" and the Dell is listed as a 24", with the same resolution, my understanding is that the Dell has a higher DPI, meaning that because the screen is larger, each pixel is larger in size relative to the screen. This would be similar to the 12" and 14" iBook running at the same resolution but having a different screen.

3) Any other general advice as to which one is better, forgetting about the price. I have heard about many issues with Dell's monitors, mainly with blurring screens, lines, bad pixels, etc... and I have also heard about a pretty widespread issue with the 23" ACD regarding a pinkish hue that Apple has yet to rectify.

Please, no comparisons on price and which one is a better value. It's fairly obvious they are at a different price point.

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Apr 23, 2005, 08:54 PM
 
First, there's several threads on this monitor already, so you'll find some useful information there.

Some dells do have issues, but you can usually convince someone there to let you return it for almost anything. my friend was allowed to return his 2005FPW for one dead pixel.

The dell has a lower DPI than the 23" ACD. same number of pixels in a larger space = fewer in each inch.

Again, check out the other threads around here on this and other Dell screens, and maybe even some PC forums where more people will own these.

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Apr 24, 2005, 12:28 AM
 
Thanks for the reply.

I have read through all those threads, and usually came up lacking with details. Most people seem to veer off and start talking about the 20 inch model or other such things. I really had specific questions that I want answered.

About the DPI, so on the Dell, the pixels would look more stretched out right? Meaning the menubar would actually be bigger in physical inches etc...? I've always thought OS X would look better on higher DPI screens, more pixels in each inch, because everything is so large right now. This is one factor that is really leaning me towards the ACD.
     
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Apr 24, 2005, 01:05 AM
 
lol, the dell monitor is a 24", and the same res as apple's 23" -- that means it has a LOWER Dpi.. think for a second here, DOTS PER INCH.. yeah 1920x1200 dots, so yeah.. fewer in an inch

If you want a 23", you can look at HP's L2335 as well, they have tons of inputs, like the dell monitor. The problem with apple's 23" is that stupid pink cast issue.. though I hear that can possibly be a prob with the HP ones as well.
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Apr 24, 2005, 09:38 AM
 
I'm sure the HP 23" uses the same LCD panel as the ACD, so that would explain the pink cast on both screens.

As for DPI:

ratio of diagonal measurement to height:
sqrt(16^2 + 10^2) = 18.87:10

in a 23" display, height is:
18.87/10 = 23/x
or 12.19" tall

divide 1200 pixels by 12.19 inches and you get 98.44 pixels per inch.

in a 24" display, height is:
18.87/10 = 24/x
or 12.72" tall

1200 pixels / 12.72" = 94.34 pixels per inch.

In other words, it's a pretty small difference. Practically, you'd probably never notice it.

(if i did some math wrong there, then, well... i just woke up )

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Apr 24, 2005, 12:07 PM
 
I'm guessing your math just measured everything including the bezel for some reason, because I Don't think the manufacturers state the actual screen size... that'd be new but yeah..
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Apr 24, 2005, 12:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by Link
lol, the dell monitor is a 24", and the same res as apple's 23" -- that means it has a LOWER Dpi.. think for a second here, DOTS PER INCH.. yeah 1920x1200 dots, so yeah.. fewer in an inch

If you want a 23", you can look at HP's L2335 as well, they have tons of inputs, like the dell monitor. The problem with apple's 23" is that stupid pink cast issue.. though I hear that can possibly be a prob with the HP ones as well.
Yeah, read my post again, I understand that. That is why I am leaning toward the Apple display, because I like higher DPI screens. I am worried about the pink issue though.
     
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Apr 24, 2005, 02:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Link
I'm guessing your math just measured everything including the bezel for some reason, because I Don't think the manufacturers state the actual screen size... that'd be new but yeah..
what makes you think that? i just found the ratio between the diagonal (hypotenuse) and height (side) of a 16:10 screen with the Pythagorean theorem. then i used that ratio to find the height of a 23" and 24" screen.

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Apr 24, 2005, 02:58 PM
 
Well I think you did something right, because I have seen somewhere else where they listed the DPI at 98.4 for the Apple display. However, they could have just done the same thing that you did.

I also saw it listed with a 100 dpi as well, I wish I knew for sure. But either way, its looking like the Apple display has a higher DPI.
     
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Apr 24, 2005, 07:35 PM
 
To keep with the other threads, I'm going to take this time to veer off to the 20" Dell model 2005FPW. I think it has a higher DPI (like the Apples) and you can afford 3 or 4 for the price of a 23" ACD!!!1!!1!11!1one!!!
     
   
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