[Hi-Q]

Being in market for a replacement for my Apple Desktop Bus Mouse 2, I want to purchase the optical offerings from either Logitech or Microsoft, the logitech wheel mouse optical 2 or the MS Intellimouse. Which one deserves a spot on my desktop? Which is the most comfy, the most configurable, the most compatible and so on?

The Norwegian Troll

[Cipher13]

Just make sure whichever it is, it'll work with ADB. I didn't know of many optical mouses/mice that worked with ADB...

Who makes the best mice? Apple.

Cipher13

[Stogieman]

Yeah, the best one button no wheel mice.

[Hi-Q]

I don´t think I will spend a fortune on apple´s one button thingy.
As for the ADB problem: The decent ADB mice are just as expensive as a good optical USB mouse PLUS a USB PCI card. And, the USB ones updates their position more frequently, I believe?

The Norwegain Troll

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[Cipher13]

Originally posted by Hi-Q:
I don´t think I will spend a fortune on apple´s one button thingy.
As for the ADB problem: The decent ADB mice are just as expensive as a good optical USB mouse PLUS a USB PCI card. And, the USB ones updates their position more frequently, I believe?

The Norwegain Troll

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Theoretically yes as USB is faster than ADB.
And the sampling rates are bad enough as it is
Optical ADB is a bad idea... get a ball mouse.

Cipher13

[Hi-Q]

Well, I have allready decided to go for an optical mouse and a USB PCI card. What I really would like to know is whether Microsofts or Logitechs mouse is the best one.

[Stogieman]

Go with logitech, that's what I have. They make great mice and I have not had a problem with mine. They are a lot cheaper too, mine was 30 U.S. dollars or 269.00 Nkr. It's something you should consider since you have to buy a USB card as well. The software that comes with it is alright, although I'm using USB Overdrive with mine.

[jeromep]

Logitech makes good mice, but Kensington products are even better and work so much better on Macs. If you are having to use a third party software package to get a Logitech or Microsoft mouse work, then you should not purchase that product.

But I Have to agree with some of the earlier posts. Get an Apple ADB mouse for your comptuer and have it over with. Those were really the best traditional mice ever made.

[Chimpmaster]

It doesnt seem like anyone answered your question dude!

Ill have a go.

Logitech and microsoft both make really good mice. I myself have a microsoft intellimouse optical - currently they are very good value for money, and in my opinion, they are a better mouse than the intellimouse explorer which costs more, has more buttons, but doesnt feel as good.

Logitech make excellent mice. Over here in australia, logitech is slighty more expensive. I have bever used one, though they have an excellent reputation.

Kensington also have an excellent reputation, and they do specialise in macintosh. They tend to be pretty good value for money as well.

All in all i dont think you could go wrong with an optical mouse from microsoft, logitech or kensington. My only advice is get at least two button plus a wheel and optical is a must.

My intellimouse optical has extra buttons on the side which i can use to go forward and back in my browser, and the wheel is a button as well. Its a very sturdy mouse, and the mac software support is good too - no problems with it. Youve got to configure it vua the control panel for every game you run however, to allow two button support. At least the intellipoint software does this for you, as with some other mice, ive heard you need thirs party software to do it.

[jack daddy]

apple makes the worst. that freakin' hockey puck crap that they made and still make is disgusting. they had to make another product to make it a normal mouse.(i-catch). interms of their other stuff...respectable. LOGITECH makes the best mouse. plain and simple. good design and good function. kensington makes good mice for their price. half the price for the same features. microsoft makes the most rugged mice. you can drop em' spill on em' they take a lickin but keep on tickin'. by the way i'm talking about ball and optical mice. i hate more than anuthing that freak crap with the palm/thumb ball thing. those monstrocities are so slow it makes me want to puke.

[Adam Silver]

I would avoid USB mice on a computer that doesn't have built-in USB. You have to wait for the USB drivers to load during the startup process and (more importantly) the mouse won't work when you disable extensions.

Get a new ADB mouse. Kensington makes the best ADB mice, but they're pricey. Macally's ADB mice are not as good but tend to cost a lot less.

[lucylawless]

"All in all i dont think you could go wrong with an optical mouse from microsoft, logitech or kensington."

I'd like to point out that you Can go wrong. I've owned three optical mice -- two from Microsoft and one from Kensington.

The first was a Microsoft low-end model, which I liked the best, but which they don't make anymore. I only know this because the mouse broke after 6 months (it suddenly stopped working altogether, with no clues as to why), and MS sent me a newer model as replacement, because they said the old one was no longer available. This first one had two buttons and a wheel, and was shaped like a traditional mouse.

The second Microsoft mouse was offered as a replacement for the first (which I never had to send in, by the way). The new one I think is the low end model now; at any rate it has 4 buttons and a wheel, and is shaped in that rounded pyramid motif that is popular now. But I think this new shape, which forces me to hold it with only my thumb and pinky, is giving me a nervous disorder in my hand. Other than that its performance is very good. Sorry I don't know the model names of these mice...

While I was waiting two weeks for my replacement from microsoft, I bought the low-end Kensington Mouse-in-a-Box Optical, which has 2 buttons plus the wheel. I was very dissatisfied with this mouse. The Kensington driviers' one saving grace was that they have an intriguing feature that allows the user to specify combinations of buttons for additional functions. On the other hand, the scroll wheel didn't work with a majority of programs. The example I remember was that in Netscape, it would scroll down very choppily (sp?), but it would not scroll up at all. Also, the cursor movement with this mouse was jumpy and unresponsive compared with either microsoft mouse. The MacNN review of Kensington optical mice, I believe, said that their high-end mouse was much much better than the one I bought...

I ended up using USB overdrive with all three mice. It's never interfered with my other software, whereas the Kensington drivers just sucked and the MS Intellipoint software has crashed my system on occaission.

-LL
Pismo Powerbook 400MHz/128MB/12GB/MacOS 9.0.4

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by lucylawless:
I ended up using USB overdrive with all three mice. It's never interfered with my other software, whereas the Kensington drivers just sucked and the MS Intellipoint software has crashed my system on occaission.

USB Overdrive definately rules, but you have to turn it off before playing most games.
Not disable, just uncheck the box in the control panel that makes it work...
Maybe a newer version fixes this?

Cipher13

[slboett]

I have USB Overdrive and have never had to disable it. I have it on a few iMacs with different mice and it's great.
At work I use a Micro$oft Intellimouse Explorer and I hate to say folks, it's a great mouse - and the software is pretty solid. Now it's almost impossible for me to use a one-button mouse.

Scott

PS - Cipher, where's that sense of humor you promised me???

[dllevy]

Logitech. Hands down. The new remote trackball one is great.

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by slboett:
PS - Cipher, where's that sense of humor you promised me???

Hehe, looks like you got it as planned

Cipher13