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I own a QPS Que! FireDrive 4X4X24 and it will not burn a successful CDR/RW with Toast 4.1. It will not verify and does not work in any write speed I try. I have read and tried a lot of different things and nothing fixes it. I have had zero problems mounting the drive.
If you can help, please reply to my posting. Thank you.
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4.1 doesn't work with my drive either (QUE). I downgraded to 4.02 for optimum performance.
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4.1 is still in beta, firewire being first generation, 4.02 looks like your best bet.
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I have a Que fire! 4x4x24 and toast 4.1 but my pismo or G4 won't even recognize the drive. Any help is appreciated
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If you installed the drive and a previous version of Toast on your computers and then upgraded to Toast 4.1, there is one other step you need to take. When you installed the previous version you had to also copy an extension to the System Folder that was called “Que! Fire”. Now, since you have the upgraded version of Toast you must remove that extension so that Toast can recognize the drive properly.
If you did not have a pervious version of Toast installed and the extension that I mentioned, then you are experiencing another problem. Sorry, I do no know what to tell you.
Post a reply and let me know more about your situation.
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I also have a Que Firewire 4x drive and I cannot get the computer to mount it or even see it. I am using Toast 4.1 (upgraded from 4.02), Firewire 2.4, Mac Os 9.0.4 on a power mac G4. I tried starting the computer with and without the QueFirewire extension, and that does not seem to do anything. I have called Que for support and all I get is voicemail (did you notice that there is no 1-800 number?)!! I also emailed them over 2 weeks ago and also no reply!
There is one other thing that is very bothersome about the drive and that is the power cable or power plug. If I even touch the cable the drive will reset (power off then on again).
If I could return the thing I would, however it is too late.
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Actually I would be really grateful if someone would post what is listed under the Firewire bullet in the Devices/Volume tab in the Apple System Profiler application for the QPS Que Firewire Drive 4x/4x/24x. Please include drivers info and anything that is relevant so that I might be able to debug my problem. I want to find out if my Mac actually "sees" the drive. Thanks,
Abd Almoutee
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I have a Que QPS 8X/4X/32X drive running Toast 4.1 (Not deluxe) on an iMac DVSE OS 9.0.4 And so far I have not had any problem with the computer not seeing the drive or any other real problems for that matter.
Abd asked for some system profile details, so I'll list what it says here for my system. FireWire (v2.33) "fw609e,10483" then "sbp609e,104d8" I have no idea what that little lot means, but it does of course show that the drive is recognised.
I wonder if the 4X/4X/24X version of this drive uses a very different mechanism, as that would seem to be the only reason why I am not getting any problems, yet you guys are..
Oh, one other small point that might be worth a mention.. You guys do realise that you have to "Mount" the inserted (pre-recorded) CD before it will be recognised and show up on the desktop? Sorry if thats obvious! but it might have been easily overlooked. Having said that, blank CD's don't mount until they have been recorded onto to some extent. So to mount a CD with these drives, you have to load up Toast, pull down the "Recorder" drop down menu and select "Mount" Once it's mounted you can then quit Toast and still access the CD from the desktop. Again, sorry if thats obvious stuff! But it might be the answer to one or two peoples problems.
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Abd Almoutee
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Thanks for your prompt reply iPaul. After verifying with my system profiler, I have the exact same thing which you listed. This could only mean that Toast is to blame, since the drive is seen by the computer. I will downgrade to Toast 4.0.1.1 and see if that makes any difference since Toast 4.1 seems to be a piece of crap.
I do know that I have to mount the drive from Toast before it shows up in the desktop; thanks for your help.
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iPaul,
I just got my new Que QPS 8X/4X/32X drive running Toast 4.1 (Not deluxe), same as you're using, but am trying to use it on my Pismo 500. I had one problems initially after loading Toast and restarting - my Pismo wouldn't recognize Que, until I shutdown and did a cold startup vs. doing a warm restart.
My problem now is that I can't get the Que to "see" ANY CD I place, either pre-recorded or blank. I've tried Imation and Memorex blank CD's, and neither is seen. Pressing "disc info" yields "There is no disc in the recorder."
Unless my Que is defective, I must be missing something really simple, but I can't think of anything else. I've tried using OS 9.0.4 with the added Toast extensions, etc. with Conflict Catcher, and still no CD is seen by my Que!
Toast 4.1 CAME with my Que, so I can't imagine that downgrading could help, and I didn't have any previous version of Toast loaded, to have to remove anything.
Help?
iBorg
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I also have the 8/4/32 Que Firedrive. mine came with Toast 4.0.1.1. I have so far had a 100% success rate burning CD-Rs (never had need for RW's). I have occasionally had a slight problem with Toast initially recognizing that there is a CD-R in the drive (which it has always recognized fine), but a restart has always solved the problem (though I admit I have no idea why). Anyway, I think 4.0.1.1 is really a happier piece of SW than 4.1. When in doubt, Downgrade!
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I ran into the same problem when I first got my Que. I don't remember what fixed the problem because I tried so many things. Here is a list of stuff that I did to my mac to recognize my Que. I hope this works for you:
1. I made sure I had Apple's latest firewire extension. Try using 2.3.3 or 2.4
2. I powered off both the que drive and the computer. I first started the Que then powered up the computer. This combo seems to work the best.
3. Jiggling the cables - Especially the power cable. It comes loose very easily. Make sure that sucker is plugged in all the way. Try switching in the firewire cable in either port.
4. Finally, when putting a cd in the Que Drive make sure that the little green access light comes on. If it doesn't then the drive isn't reading the CD. Also, it may help reinstalling Toast again with the extensions off. And it doesn't hurt to rebuild the desktop.
That's all I can think of right now, I hope this helps.
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elzinet: My Que CD-RW came with Toast 4.1 - can I get a download to DOWNgrade my software?
stogieman: I'm using Firwire update 2.4. I now power-up the Que before Pismo, and that lets Pismo recognize Que everytime - however, it STILL says there is no CD-R in the drive. I tried reloading toast, and rebuilding desktop, etc., to no avail.
Any other suggestions? My ONLY problem is that the Que will not recognize a CD-R in the drawer, no matter what. I can't think of anything else to do - must be a defective drive???
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iBorg. I did mention this earlier.. But just in case you missed it.. You do realise that the drive won't actually show that a blank CD-r has been inserted? Although it will still write to the disc just fine. Pre-recorded discs should be displayed right away once they have been mounted.
Also, This is a tip which Wlonh seems to recomend for just about all Mac software problems.. So maybe it will work for this too!? Try deleting the drive software prefs. Might be worth a try..
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Imagine my surprise, QPS actually responded to an email!!!
Anyway, my drive works fine with 4.1 now, and now I burn CD's directly from SoundJam MP. I've also written a script to automatically mount CD's from the drive.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned. DO NOT USE FIREWIRE 2.4. Use 2.3.3, the CD RW will not be recognized properly otherwise. That was my problem. You need the following extensions: Firewire Enabler 2.3.3, Firewire Support 2.3.3, and Toast Firewire 4.1. I trashed everything else.
[This message has been edited by GORDYmac (edited 07-03-2000).]
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iPaul: I DO know this. My Que doesn't recognize when ANY CD is inserted - pre-recorded CD's not only don't mount or display, but click Command-I ("disk info") gives the message "There is no disk in the recorder," the same as if there actually were none. And if I try to write to a CD-R, the tray pops open, asking for a CD-R - if I reinsert it, nothing happens. Command-I again yields "...no disk..."
I note in your earlier post that you have Firewire 2.3.3? Maybe my problem is that I updated to Firewire 2.4? GORDYmac, you mentioned this - was this from QPS? If so, it would have been nice for THEM to have given these instructions in the installation instructions.
I'll try to downgrade my Firewire to 2.3.3, and see what happens!
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Yes, I'm using FireWire v2.33. So far it has worked perfectly well for me, so I see no need to upgrade to v2.4. Not to mention the fact that I don't think v2.4 is even available yet for the UK edition of Mac OS 9. And Gordymacs findings mean that I'll most likely stick with v2.33 for some time yet!
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Well.......no help after downgrading to Firewire 2.3.3. I've tried trimming the extensions down to Base OS 9.0.4, All OS 9.0.4 (with the Toast additions) - nothing. Nothing enables the drive to recognize any sort of CD or CD-R inserted.
I spoke with QPS tech support - they said to get a replacement unit, so Outpost is sending one out today.
I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the advice - I now know much more about CD-burning and Firewire than ever before! Now if the new unit is not defective.......
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Well, my replacement Que! FireWire CD-RW came today, and it works flawlessly! Just plug-n-play, just like it's supposed to!
I'm running on full set of extensions, without any problems at all. Then I re-upgraded to Firwire 2.4, and all is yet well. Toast 4.1, the included version, works perfectly, also, so I haven't had to try to downgrade this, either. The only thing I haven't upgraded yet is the firmware 2.4 for Pismo - but that's another forum topic........
NOW, if QPS can just manage to get the Mac version of DirectCD - until then, the CD-RW isn't of much use for backups, right?
iBorg
[This message has been edited by iBorg (edited 07-06-2000).]
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Yea, Apple came out with Firewire 2.4, but then released 2.3.3 separated from the 9.0.4 installer. 2.4 will not work properly with a lot of the drives for some reason, hence the re-release of 2.3.3.
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Don't you just hate it when that happens!?! IE.. When something you just got for your computer doesn't work, so you assume that you have done something silly wrong, or that there is at least an easy workaround/fix.. I was in a similar recently when trying to use a Keyspan USB/Serial adapter with my Palm Pilot and HotSync cradle.. I could not get the damn thing to work! You name it, I tried it.. Nothing worked! Then I tried a replacement USB/serial adapter and it worked perfectly! I could have cried..... Anyway! Pleased to hear that you now have a working drive! ;o)
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GORDYmac wrote an applescript to have CD's inserted into an QPS Que! CD-RW drive automatically mounted on the
desktop? i would love a copy of that! I'm tired of the manual drudgery of opening Toast and mounting disks then quitting Toast.
Thanks.
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GORDYmac,
Are you sure about Apple's position on the Firewire update?
Mac OS 9.0.4's release date was 4/4/00. Firewire 2.4's release date was 6/2/00. If you look at Apple's software section ( http://asu.info.apple.com/ ) there is only Firewire 2.4, without even an option of downgrading to v 2.3.3. And I believe that the current Pismos ship with 2.4, right?
Firewire 2.4 works fine on my Pismo 500 with the Que! Firewire CD-RW - are you aware of any particular conflicts with this version? Certainly I may have simply not encountered them yet! Let me know what you've found, OK?
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If you go to Apple's Update Page, You'll see that the release date for 2.3.3 (6/19) is much later that 2.4 (6.2). Using Tome Viewer, I determined that 2.3.3 was part of the 9.0.4 update. Anyway, that's what works for me.
The applescript is simple. I'm not at my mac now, but I believe it goes:
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Tell application "Toast 4.1"
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mount cdrom
quit
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Paste the above in the script editor and click the "Check Syntax" button to check for errors. If there aren't any, put a CD in the drive and run the script. Toast should open, mount the CD, then quit. It's happens very fast -- faster than putting a CD in the iMac drive.
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Unfortunately, your best bet is to <b>return</b> the drive (that goes for all of the unfortuantes that purchased one of these pieces of shite) & buy something that will actually work. QPS stuff is crap (although it sure <b>looks</b> cool). <br>
I purchased a USB drive from them a while back & could not get it to work <i>period.</i> I eventually managed to return it & get my money back (after much wranglin with them) & bought a Yamaha SCSI CD-RW instead, and am quite happy with it.
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GORDYmac,
Thanks for the link. The link that I gave (Apple Downloads) listed only Firewire 2.4. I wish that Apple was more clear on what they advise us to use: on the Firewire 2.3.3 download page, they only talk about correcting problems from v 2.3.2; on the Firewire 2.4 page, they listed corrected problems with v 2.3.3:
"FireWire 2.4 fixes three problems that may be experienced by customers who are presently using FireWire 2.3.3 or an earlier version:
- Performance is improved for FireWire hard disk drives on most Macintosh computers. The improvement is greatest when writing to the disk, and for very fast disks.
-Unplugging a DV camera while running iMovie in certain situations no longer causes a crash.
- Compatibility with some third-party isochronous devices has been improved"
So what's a Mac-user to do! For now, since Firewire 2.4 is working, I guess I'll keep using it for now. If problems arise, I'll downgrade.
Thanks for the followup!
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I agree that the QPS USB CDR drives were crap, but so is every other USB CDR drive. USB CDR drives are never going to be any good, unless you want to burn at 2x, and all you have are USB ports on your Mac.
However, I believe that the QPS Firewire drives are some of the highest quality drives you can get. Sure, there have been a few that were DOA, but that's what these forums are for... to determine that.
I've had the 8x4x32x QPS firewire drive since late Feb. and I've burned almost a full 50 spindle. In every case I've had a full extension set. I also use the cheapest media I could find, and I've never had a problem with it. I couldn't be happier.
I would recommend this drive to anyone who want's a fast, inexpensive, and awesome looking CD-RW solution. (If you happend to be in the 1% of people that get a DAO then send it back and get another)
[This message has been edited by blizaine (edited 07-07-2000).]
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I gotta agree with blizaine - I really love my Que! Firewire CD-RW 8x4x32! My first unit was defective, but Outpost replaced it the next day, and this has been a charm to use! I burned 15 CD's tonight - some software titles - uh..."back-ups?"...), copied a couple of commercial music CD's, and burned 3 CD's of MP3's, all without a hitch! Toast 4.1 is so simple to use, you'd almost have to try to screw up!
I wouldn't get a USB drive - the data transfer rate is too slow. (I burn ALL my CD's at 8x)
Anyway, I'd advise ANYONE to get this Firewire drive! Works like a charm with my Pismo 500!
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Hey, there:
Though somewhat of a novice, I too have enjoyed using my Firedrive 8432 and have encountered few of the problems listed here...however, I've a few questions:
1) Will Toast 4.1 ever recognize a drive as "Firewire?" or will it always say "SCSI" and does it matter?
2) Toast recognizes the drive at start-up, so why does it not when I click on Search?
3) I have heard back from QPS about the fact that DirectCD support has been put on the back burner...Is there any usable alternative that would offer Backup and Drag/Drop Support? Does Adaptec have a corner on the market?
Thanks for the info. I've learned a lot just reading and would appreciate any help I can get...
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Just thought I'd add another interesting point that I discovered yesterday... This concerns the QueFire extention.. I was running Toast 4.1 (Not deluxe) and this extension was installed and active, and I was having no problems. Then I decided to buy the Deluxe version of this software. Once installed.. My drive was not recognised! AARRGGHH!!! So I toyed about with the extensions for a while.. And sure enough, the QueFire extension was causing the problem, so I quickly binned it! Now all is well again.
I know it's common knowledge already that this extension is not required. But I thought it was interesting the the standard edition of Toast 4.1 didn't have a problem with this extension, yet Toast 4.1 Deluxe didn't like it at all! Bizzare...
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Despite all the bad things said about these FireWire drives, I went and bought a Que! 4x4x24 external CD-RW drive last week. I bought it from a store that has a 30-day return policy, so if it wouldn't work, I'd have nothing to lose.
Within just 5 minutes, I was up and running, and had burned my first audio CD within 25 minutes. Since then I have backed up everything (almost 6GB) to CD-RW and have burned several audio CD's, and so far, KNOCK ON WOOD, not one coaster, which has really surprised me. The CD's I have produced work equally well on my G3, 6500/300 and 6220CD, and the audio CD's work in my Pioneer CD player and even in my RCA DVD player.
I am using 9.0.4, FireWire 2.4, Toast 4.1 (that came with the drive) on a B/W G3 350, and I have LOTS of third party extensions (2 1/2 rows on start-up at 1024x768).
Compared with stuff I have bought from Iomega ( I have 2 ****ing Zip drives that have hardly ever worked), this works like a dream - well worth every penny
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David Dixon: Your post reminded me of another surprise that I've have with the ease-of-use, and stability of my Que! and Toast 4.1: I have my Pismo LOADED with extra sharewares, gadgets, extensions, etc. (74 icons show on startup!) - and despite this, I have NO problems or conflicts! I've seen several posts advising a trimmed-down extension set for CD-burning, and I haven't found this to be necessary.
iPaul UK: I've just been using Toast 4.1 OEM that came with the Que! - are there enough advantages to justify buying Toast 4.1 Deluxe? As easy as this has been, I plan to do alot more burning! You've been very helpful in this forum topic, and I'd be interested in your advice on this!
Storyboy: I hadn't heard that DirectCD had been shelved - is that true? I'd also be interested in hearing about any alternative choices for Macs.
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Storyboy,
We have the same Que! Firedrive - I use mine with my Pismo 500. As long as Toast recognizes it upon launching Toast, it should again with "Search." It might make a difference in the order of things powered on - it's advisable to powerup the Que!, then your computer. (Since I usually just "sleep" my Pismo, I don't always do this.)
Also, you said that Toast recognizes your Firedrive as SCSI? Toast recognizes mine as Firewire, listing: "QPS CD-R PX-W8432T" with "Firewire" below this.
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iBorg:
Interesting that Toast mentions firewire at all, in the main toast window, I get:
QPS CD-R PX-W8432T
SCSI Bus 0, ID 1
That is what appears when I first launch Toast; after, of course, waking my DV-SE and powering up the Que! Then if I click Search the above is replaced with the "No CD Recorder, Check Cables, Power Supply, etc."
Again, I've not used the drive so very much, but I'm the kinda guy who likes to know that things are working as they should...so, although I've not had any problems, these "little things" vex me.
Thanks,
Storyboy
PS: This is the reply I got from QPS Tech Support about DirectCD for the Mac:
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We have not received any updates on this program from adaptec either.
Last I heared from them this program was put on the back burner while they
worked on revisions to other programs to make them compatable with newer OS
releases by apple and updated drivers for their expansion cards.
Rod Carrigan
QPS Inc
Tech Support
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iBorg: I use my CD burner to compile a lot of audio CD's for people. Some of which is kinda DJ mixed/blended from track to track. So to do this properly (IE without pauses/glitches between the tracks) I needed to use DAO (Disc At Once) mode, which only Toast Deluxe can offer me. Plus it also has CD Spin Doctor which looks like it should be a great help in remastering old material onto CD. But it seems to have a major ommision! Although you can re-adjust the levels after you have recorded your material (to the hard drive), you can't actually normalise it! This seems really stupid.. But there you go... Other than that, Toast Deluxe gives you a proper manual (YAY!), a lead to connect your Mac to your home stereo (Useful) plus a bizzare little round plastic thing that apparantly helps you apply labels to CD's. Some labels are included in the package. Toast Deluxe is also able to cope with a wider range of CD formats, although I doubt that I'd have much cause for those features. DAO mode and a real manual are the only real advantages for me...
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PS, Toast also recognises my drive as a FireWire device rather than a SCSI one.
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I will now add my name to the list of folks who can't get the QueFire 4x4x24 to work with Toast 4.1 OEM. I'm furious with QPS for using Toast (only - which you're almost forced to upgrade for $50 - include a FULL VERSION of something we can use, PLEASE!!) and with Apple for not being able to stabalize the Firewire drivers for more than a month at a time.
Posters on another forum seemed to love the 8x4x32 version. Should I trade it up? That's an extra $100 I'm skeptical to part with at this point...
I've tried everything suggested at the QPS site, the Adaptec site, and this list. I went as far as to finally upgrade to 9.04 (from 8.6) and trying every possible combination of extensions and connections to the machine.
Right now, I'm using the Firewire 2.3.3 extensions, and QPS's recommended FireWireSupport and ToastCD extensions.
I wondered if my situation was compounded by the fact that I ALSO just purchased and installed a BellStor 20GIG Firewire drive (which is completely AWESOME and flawless-BTW) which puts its own FirewireDisk Support extension in the mix. So I unplugged it, killed its extension, left the Cue plugged in, rebooted and STILL, I get that infuriating and belittling error message in Toast 4.1 to "check power and cabling". Just to experiment, I chained the 20gig off of the Cue!Fire drive. It worked fine again, and regardless of BellStor's extension, the Cue!Fire drive still doesn't show.
So I've just fired off a bitter letter to QPS, and I plead to the members on this list to HELP!!! I have to get a CD burned in the next 24 hours or I'm going to lose a client!
email: me@davebias.org
Here's the necessary system info from the Apple Profiler. If you think you can help and need more, bouce me an email, PLEASE!!!
Software overview / Mac OS overview / Finder: 9.0 / System: 9.0.4 US / Active enabler: PowerPC Enabler 9.0.4 / QuickTime: 4.0.3
Memory overview: Disk cache: 6 MB / Virtual memory: 193 MB / Used on volume: acme / Built-in memory: 192 MB
Hardware overview: Machine ID: 406 / Model name: PowerMac G3 Series / Keyboard type: Apple Extended Keyboard / Processor info: PowerPC G3 / Machine speed: 300 MHz / Nanokernel version: 2.13 / Nanokernel pool extends: 8 / Nanokernel scheduled CPUs:1
Production information: ROM revision: $77D.45F6 / Boot ROM version: 1.1f4 / Mac OS ROM file version: 3.7 / Serial number: XB90837K-FQ2 / Software bundle: 694-1137 / Sales order number: Not applicable
Devices and Volumes:
(this is what shows for the Cue!Fire) Firewire 2.4 / fw609e,10483
(the BellStor drive looks like any other) FireWire: XXgig / Volume format: Mac OS Extended (HFS+) / Capacity: 19.13 GB / Available: 8.45 GB / Percent full: 55 / Write protected: No / Is being file shared: No
[This message has been edited by davebias (edited 07-09-2000).]
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So, finally I have convinced my iMac and Toast that I do indeed have a Firewire Port!
I went through the trouble of reinstalling 4.0.1.1 and then updating to 4.1 with no change in Toast's recognition of my Que! as a SCSI device; then I came upon an earlier post that says that after updating to 4.1 one must disable the Que! Fire extension...That did the trick, why hadn't I known that from the start?
Thanks for the rapid response and for suggestions, whomever it was...
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Update: I rushed the drive back to the place of purchase this morning and took a chance on the 8x4x32 drive... Right out of the box, I plugged it in, turned it on and burned a disc about half full of random stuffit files at 8x within about 10 minutes of sitting down. Used my pre-installed Toast 4.1 setup with Firewire 2.3.3.
Audio is another story... Ruined three discs and went through three horrible crashes until I put it back to 2x.
However, I just noticed that the CD that came in the box is actuall the OLDER version of Toast, so I'm going to try that next.
I'm still really pissed at QPS for making me spend an extra $150 and freaking me out so badly... And at J&R Computer World (in NYC!) for not carrying anything but the QPS and some dubious looking Sony iLink drives...
Originally posted by davebias:
I will now add my name to the list of folks who can't get the QueFire 4x4x24 to work with Toast 4.1 OEM. I'm furious with QPS for using Toast (only - which you're almost forced to upgrade for $50 - include a FULL VERSION of something we can use, PLEASE!!) and with Apple for not being able to stabalize the Firewire drivers for more than a month at a time.
Posters on another forum seemed to love the 8x4x32 version. Should I trade it up? That's an extra $100 I'm skeptical to part with at this point...
I've tried everything suggested at the QPS site, the Adaptec site, and this list. I went as far as to finally upgrade to 9.04 (from 8.6) and trying every possible combination of extensions and connections to the machine.
Right now, I'm using the Firewire 2.3.3 extensions, and QPS's recommended FireWireSupport and ToastCD extensions.
I wondered if my situation was compounded by the fact that I ALSO just purchased and installed a BellStor 20GIG Firewire drive (which is completely AWESOME and flawless-BTW) which puts its own FirewireDisk Support extension in the mix. So I unplugged it, killed its extension, left the Cue plugged in, rebooted and STILL, I get that infuriating and belittling error message in Toast 4.1 to "check power and cabling". Just to experiment, I chained the 20gig off of the Cue!Fire drive. It worked fine again, and regardless of BellStor's extension, the Cue!Fire drive still doesn't show.
So I've just fired off a bitter letter to QPS, and I plead to the members on this list to HELP!!! I have to get a CD burned in the next 24 hours or I'm going to lose a client!
email: me@davebias.org
Here's the necessary system info from the Apple Profiler. If you think you can help and need more, bouce me an email, PLEASE!!!
Software overview / Mac OS overview / Finder: 9.0 / System: 9.0.4 US / Active enabler: PowerPC Enabler 9.0.4 / QuickTime: 4.0.3
Memory overview: Disk cache: 6 MB / Virtual memory: 193 MB / Used on volume: acme / Built-in memory: 192 MB
Hardware overview: Machine ID: 406 / Model name: PowerMac G3 Series / Keyboard type: Apple Extended Keyboard / Processor info: PowerPC G3 / Machine speed: 300 MHz / Nanokernel version: 2.13 / Nanokernel pool extends: 8 / Nanokernel scheduled CPUs:1
Production information: ROM revision: $77D.45F6 / Boot ROM version: 1.1f4 / Mac OS ROM file version: 3.7 / Serial number: XB90837K-FQ2 / Software bundle: 694-1137 / Sales order number: Not applicable
Devices and Volumes:
(this is what shows for the Cue!Fire) Firewire 2.4 / fw609e,10483
(the BellStor drive looks like any other) FireWire: XXgig / Volume format: Mac OS Extended (HFS+) / Capacity: 19.13 GB / Available: 8.45 GB / Percent full: 55 / Write protected: No / Is being file shared: No
[This message has been edited by davebias (edited 07-09-2000).]
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davebias,
I don't know why you can't burn music at faster speeds - I burn all my mp3 CD's at 8x, and copied (er, um,..."backed up...") music CD's at 8x, also. I've burned about 30 CD's, and the only "coaster" I've had, was one that occured while burning on battery (didn't realize cord was unplugged - DOH!) - my Pismo shut down half way through.
I'm burning with Toast OEM 4.1, and Firewire 2.4, without any problems, running full extensions, etc. All of my data burns and application "backups" (  ) are done at 8x. I've read posts advising burning music at slower speeds (like 4x), but since I haven't had any problems at faster speeds, what the hell!
iBorg
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davebias,
I did have one idea - in Toast 4.1, go to "preferences" in the edit menu, and increase your "RAM cache." The default setting is pretty low - I increased mine to the max, 64MB.
iBorg
[This message has been edited by iBorg (edited 07-11-2000).]
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