[AGE]

What a disapointment and a ripoff...Affordable my arse.
Apple just release a freaking newton 2 and stop pissing us off.

By the way get an original name as well, I once named a new mac the iPOD that was actually what the G4 cube ended up becoming back before the digital hub was announced, but that was at apple insider which has been down for ages.

Jobs u said affordable, $399 = $950 aus for an MP3 player, LOL yeah right dream on. I don't know man, apple used to start trends, now all it does is play it safe. Zzzzzzzz....

[Thunderbird]

You weren't the first to express these sentiments. Many people feel your pain.

[AGE]

The idea of it being a small 5 gig HD is good, but its still way to expensive. By the way constant use of ear bud head phones over time will make u loose %60 of your hearing...Im giving this a miss ...interest in a


$1000 MP3 player from apple = 0%

Interest if it were a newton 2= 80%
Interest if it were a gamecube clone by apple =90%


But then again there are alot of ppl who may like this so I say, all the better to u...But we all know about buying rev.1 products from apple = no no.

[vvedge]

how is making an overpriced, superfast, mac only device 'playing it safe'?

[AGE]

Cause it doesnt break new grounds...
It doesnt really have anything to compete against.
It is really just a larger version of iomegas Hip Zip.
They should have released a newton 2 with that 5 gig HD!

Mp3 player.....how freakin boring, if this mp3 player was able to watch QT movies then i would have bought one asap to watch transformers on the train. Naa and considering constant use of ear sized headphones will make u loose hearing...

Look if u were in the market for an MP3 player and have $399 to burn cause you dont have a girlfriend to spend it on, the iPOD (how original the name...) is for u.

400 bucks is way too much for that kinda stuff. You can get a mp3 player with 6GB of capacity for around $260. I'm so disappointed that Apple'd hyped about their new product only to come out with nothing new. It'd be OK if it's made by some other company, but that's not what a company like Apple wants to make a big deal out of. We'll see how soon they'll bring down the price tag.

[cschmelz]

Originally posted by <hoopla2000>:
<STRONG>400 bucks is way too much for that kinda stuff. You can get a mp3 player with 6GB of capacity for around $260. I'm so disappointed that Apple'd hyped about their new product only to come out with nothing new. It'd be OK if it's made by some other company, but that's not what a company like Apple wants to make a big deal out of. We'll see how soon they'll bring down the price tag.</STRONG>

I tend to agree...I was really hoping for a firewire/airport integrated tivo/replay TV type thing (ReplayTV 4000 killer anyone?)

MP3 player for $400 is boring...

[nana2]

Originally posted by AGE:
<STRONG>
Look if u were in the market for an MP3 player and have $399 to burn cause you dont have a girlfriend to spend it on, the iPOD (how original the name...) is for u.</STRONG>

In fact iPOD the name has been used by IBM for their phone over data. I wonder whether they will be suing Apple?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/22429.html

[ 10-23-2001: Message edited by: nana2 ]

[AGE]

Hoopla correct, as soon as we see it drop $150 all those ppl who call th rest of us "cheap" will be spewing and feel ripped off.


Mp3 player- Maybe steve is still living in '97 when ppl actually cared.

[AGE]

iPOD....Lets now talk aBOUT IT.

What OS would it be running? Who m,akes the sound dsp?
Who makes the headphones?


Maybe they are all generic parts and the os is nothing but a simple rio os.
Maybe im trying to look for something that is actually interesting cause the who freakin thing is sooo boring and so 1997!

[JTmanRV]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AGE:
[QB]Hoopla correct, as soon as we see it drop $150 all those ppl who call th rest of us "cheap" will be spewing and feel ripped off.

It doesn't matter what Apple puts out...everyone bashes it. If they gave it away some would complain about their stock price. If they charged $200 some would say they should charge more/less/not at all. Hey, you don't like the price shut up and don't buy it. If you do, shut up and buy it. What does it matter to you? Apple is one computer company that is doing OK in the current economy. Their stuff is well designed, sturdy, and it works. Dell's stuff is cheap...go buy theirs...what...you don't want Dell's stuff? Excatly what Apple knows about us Macheads. We like their stuff and we've proven that we'll pay a premium for it.

The Cube comparison is laughable. The Cube couldn't compete with the low end G4 in price range....stupid pricing, yes! Comparable to the iPod? No! Nothing to compare with. No other MP3 player is like the iPod.

Bottom line....either buy it or don't. But quit telling everyone why...we don't care why you won't or will. We only care why we won't or will.

Later, JT

[BigMark]

Originally posted by AGE:
<STRONG>The idea of it being a small 5 gig HD is good, but its still way to expensive. By the way constant use of ear bud head phones over time will make u loose %60 of your hearing...Im giving this a miss ...</STRONG>

Earbud style headphones never stay in my ears. One more reason why my cash is staying in my wallet.

I've come away from the whole iPod affair (stating it as revolutionary, revealing it to be run-of-the-mill, horrible advertising- how else could I describe the iPod commercial?) feeling cheated and liken the whole experience to Microsofts own horrible marketing promotions.
&lt;shudder&gt;

[BobVB]

The Cube comparison is laughable. The Cube couldn't compete with the low end G4 in price range....stupid pricing, yes! Comparable to the iPod? No! Nothing to compare with. No other MP3 player is like the iPod.

Well, I was upset with the pricing till it was pointed out that this is the same drive as the new FireFly™ drive which is probably going to be similarly priced.

It is a top of the line Mac peripheral - not cheap, but if you can afford it it will integrate with your Mac better than anything else on the market. I hope that all future mac peripherals are the same way.

You want cheap, buy generic.

And what's all this whining about Australian dollars? I mean, the $400 USD Rio players would mark up the same - do they not sell in Australia either? I always thought that Australian dollars were like yen and even busboys made $100,000 ASD annually.

Busboys may make 100 000 down here but web designers don't

I guess im probably in the minority but it doesn't seem over priced to me. IT's an MP3 player that doubles as a portable HD when i need it too. It's relatively tiny. Beautifully designed. (IMO) It's got firewire. I like it. I also like what it may become over time. Wireless. Bigger hard-drives. Colour screens.

[fisherKing]

another great thing about the pod...
it gives the "peripherals" forum a reason to live!

If this thing had an Audio input it would be worth the money for me. The input would allow me plug it into the back of a DJ mixer in a club and record a about 5 hours of uncompressed audio. Once the data is on the iPod, it would have been a simple proccess of connecting it to my Firewire G4, open the audio in Pro Tools, master it then copy is back to the ipod and Burn CD's of each hour.

This would be absolutely perfect for me, no more need for the MD recorder.

Too bad Apple screwed up again.

Targon

[fisherKing]

Originally posted by &lt;Targon&gt;:
<STRONG>If this thing had an Audio input it would be worth the money for me. The input would allow me plug it into the back of a DJ mixer in a club and record a about 5 hours of uncompressed audio. Once the data is on the iPod, it would have been a simple proccess of connecting it to my Firewire G4, open the audio in Pro Tools, master it then copy is back to the ipod and Burn CD's of each hour.

This would be absolutely perfect for me, no more need for the MD recorder.

Too bad Apple screwed up again.

Targon</STRONG>

how many people share that need? or use protools?? or generally take that many steps to get to sime music-listening???

this is a consumer product, expensive (by my standards), but otherwise pretty cool...

[PBG4 User]

I think it needed audio in. For the college student, this would be perfect. He/She could record the lecture while listening to tunes!

I don't understand the lack of audio in.

[Cooter]

Here's how I price it-

CD changer the wife wants for her car- $300

MP3 player she wanted for the gym- $150

FireWIre HD I need for work to shuttle files every now and again - $200
Total- $650

iPod- $400

I save- $250.

I guess it depends on your projected use. I see a use. Others just see a $400 WalkMan.

Oh well, don't feel bad if you aren't the target audience. There are others who are.

[busket68]

This is funny.

[::maroma::]

Originally posted by busket68:
This is funny.

Hahah! Yeah, thanks for bringing this one back up. This is very comical. I wonder where 'AGE' is now? I bet he's happily playing with his iPod. What a dork. Some people need to come to the realization that they know nothing about business, product development and innovation. They also need to realize that they have no vision. Then they need to shut their mouths.

[discotronic]

This posting is a mirror of what people where saying about the mini.

Thanks for the laugh

[busket68]

It's still funny.

- Ca$h

[busket68]

still funny!

[tooki]

What with the sales continuing to accelerate, indeed!

I must confess, I thought the iPod was overpriced when it first came out. But obviously it has that little "je ne sais quoi" that makes it fly off the shelves. Lower-priced iPods have only helped that. And of course, by now the critial mass of word-of-mouth advertising has just taken off.

tooki

[Peter]

*iPod

[pliny]

some companies are still selling mp3 players with 256 mb of storage for upwards of $175, that makes no sense to me, but they should never stop doing this, because it makes the iPod look even better.

[djohnson]

Originally posted by busket68:
still funny!

Yup! Still funny here too!

[m2bored]

I thought it was ridiculously overpriced when it first came out... 399 for 5gb didn't sound good at all...

Now I think the prices are better although I think the mini should be 199...(having said that I just bought one for 249...)

[Link]

Let's elaborate. Since these posts started in 2001

The iPod (more or less) at the time, started a new market of sorts, before there were the mini CF players which were really simple, and the 2.5-3.5" huge players that had a super complex interface and were simply regarded as geek toys.

Then came the ipod. Seemingly overpriced in comparison with the other hard drive players but much smaller, and for it's storage size it had a simple interface too...

Not to mention the silver and white didn't look like any other media player on the market.. nice touch there.

People still buy iPods because there's no other MP3 player on the market like them. There are lookalikes but none of them are as simple or as nice.

[::maroma::]

The moral of this story: Don't play armchair CEO and pretend to know how a product will fair in the market before it's had a chance to prove itself.

I see this happen all too often, not only on these forums, but just talking to people in general. Especially with Apple products. Maybe its because Apple's products are usually on the cutting edge, if not ahead of their time. But I've learned over the years not to predict how an Apple product will do in the market.

[ApeInTheShell]

The moral of this post is that you want Apple to make the iPod into a PDA when Steve Jobs specifically said that was the direction he wasn't going to go. I see it evolving into a digital music/video device since Quicktime has adopted a portable video format for phones.

Why would I want to buy an iPod for my girlfriend when she borrows my clothes? It would be like locking my iMac in a closet and making it off limits because I do art work on it and don't want her to erase pictures, she'll find it sooner or later.

If you look at Apple's history for breakthrough products you'll know they do not play it safe. Take Mac OS X for example. Despite the strong following for Mac OS 9, they worked their hardest to get developer's on board and make classic compatibility for those who were undecided. Even their hardware line, they are the first to try new designs and stylish packages in the computer industry. They killed the floppy drive in favor of CD and DVD because that is the future of media.

The iPod and iTMS became a broad success even though it wasn't available in other countries! If you are worried about the price then get a Dell Jukebox w/ a PC and Music Match software. Or use OS 9 w/ a Rio MP3 Player and SoundJam. Your not the first to say "who cares about the iPod" but remember how they called the iMac a "toy". Look how far it has come and tell me the iPod hasn't evolved into something better.