[JoeG4]

I thought I might as well bring this on as well, since there's one going in the Powerbook section.

Yeah, it's a periphial, but ONLY for Power macs, so THERE!

I have 30 dead pixels, 30 stuck pixels, more to count.. And yeah, apple will replace this monitor now that I've flamed them and sent the monitor in once, only to get it returned with "no defect found"

F*** Teleplan international.

I should be getting another package at the end of the week, or after the keynote (maybe a new type of monitor!!!)

17" LCD ASD
0 dead pixel. yay!

[JoeG4]

Good luck with your new 17" display.

I should have gotten one, but I wanted something big[/LIST]

[BrunoBruin]

I have 30 dead pixels, 30 stuck pixels, more to count.. And yeah, apple will replace this monitor now that I've flamed them and sent the monitor in once, only to get it returned with "no defect found"

Wow!! My Cinema Diplay at work has ONE stuck pixel. Not bad for a display that size. My 15-inch Studio at home has none.

[2far]

My first generation Cinema Display (got it before the end of 1999!) had zero stuck pixels. The present one (ADC) has 2 stuck subpixels that I'm aware of. No reason to complain here. With more than the tenfold amount I guess you have the right not to be satisfied ...

[zac4mac]

So, lemme get this straight.
You're 14 years old and have a Cinema Display?
God, life is unfair... I mean, congratulations.
That's one bad Drive-In movie theee-ater.

Z

[MikeM32]

Where I just worked they had one system with a 22" CRT that had a dead pixel on it. It's funny because I was always dusting off that part of the screen until I realized it was a dead pixel.

Got 2 x 17" displays here at home with 0 dead pixels

I'd be pissed as hell if I owned a 22" LCD Cinema Display and it ever went downhill. For the cost of one of those displays you should be gauranteed perfect performance for the rest of your life (possibly longer).

The 22" Cinema Display started at 4 grand and is now down to 2.5 grand but it's still wayyy too highly priced for just a 1 yr standard Applecare warranty.

Mike

[tullamore]

17" Studio Display ZERO DEAD PIXELS these displays are beautiful

[JoeG4]

Well, from all the LCD's I have seen, it's tops, to me, however, it looks like it fell off the production line or something, or the box got abused enough for it to take a hit.

The first thing they asked me was "Do you ever hit your monitor?"

What a nasty thing to ask, and I answer,"Why the hell do you think anyone who paid that much for a monitor would want to hit it?!"

Mine also had a ton of scuffing on the case, it automatically pissed me off, though I didn't pay attention the first few minutes I used the machine. Luckily the G4 itself is unscratched

I will say this, the beauty of having a 22" monitor, is you have the menubar over the WHOLE screen area. Heh, one thing I always look for when I do dual monitors, is a menu on the other monitor. bad habbit

Right now my cinema display SHOULD be replaced with a new one, and it's out for vacation, bah, another 4 days

IMO: Even the tower should get better warranty than what apple gives, I have a 3 year, and still wish they'd do the damned work onsite!

Yeah, you heard it there, I am, of all ages, 14. Though right now the machine isn't doing MUCH, it will be as soon as I get more money to finish off this project (to set up a picture/audio studio)

It IS a dream-master's setup, not only do I have the fastest and most expensive G4 ever, but the biggest, and most expensive apple display too

BTW: Tidbit of info: There are two cinema displays, the 22" ADC (codename: falcon), and the 22" DVI, (codename tonga). From what I know, the tonga might have been thicker do to power management unit, or perhaps that's why the back is curved

[RealMac]

I have counted a total of one dead pixel on my display ('massaging' it didn' t help). This was done using PixelCheck (available via a link on versiontracker..). I bought a 17" LCD during the middle of December. Not bad I guess.

On a black background, the pixel is blue. Not sure what this means. For all it's worth, my 19" Viewsonic e790 crt, the display I had directly before this one had a dead pixel also (black).

This isn't going to tear my world apart however.

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: RealMac ]

[phantomdragonz]

I think the program is actually called LDCtest you can get it here http://www.ekimsw.com/lcdtest/

so get testing!

P.D.

[phantomdragonz]

ok so i tested, works great, my iBook has NO dead pixles my crt (i know i know) has this pulsating red pixel in the top left most corner. it gets slowls brighter and then goes black then starts over again. it's sooo weird. oh well I have never noticed it.

Peace.

P.D.

[RealMac]

Well, the LCDTest program is for macos 9.x, Mac OS X users have one choice right now, afaik, PixelCheck.

I didn't notice any dead pixels until I ran this. heh..

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: RealMac ]

[Hemingray]

I'm still a CRT guy, and I'm surprised to hear you guys living with a hardware defect. ONE dead pixel makes your monitor defective! I understand that one pixel ain't much, but just the fact that it's broken would bug the heck outta me and I would return it in a second.

I'll be perfectly honest, guys: I'm afraid of getting an LCD for just this reason: dead pixels/hardware defects. I mean, my CRT will do just fine unless I put my fist through it, but from the sounds of the LCD it belongs in a china cabinet or something!

[JoeG4]

Hemingray, LCD's are actually really tough, and portable, usually it's hard to notice only 1 pixel, especially if you have average vision

When a CRT has a dead pixel, I'd blame it on one of two things:

A. The raygun's shot
B. The glass has some type of defect

Now, LCD'S face one major problem, and that's a defect from arrival. If you are really pissed, take the monitor back, CompUSA gives you 14 days, and most other places. No problem, and if anything, it's a defect (lie a little)

Unfortunately, CompUSA did something nasty in my case, I tried to take back my computer at first because the RAM was overheating, they wouldn't, in fact, they stated they'd charge 15%.

Be careful what you do

Otherwise, all LCD's are wonderful, especially the apple ones, I have ccarried around my Cinema display many times, carefully of course, (with one arm.. hehe), and it's not really a problem, these are designed really sturdy.

The beauty of the apple screens is of a few things:

a. Thanks to modern processes, they require less metal, and can use RF shielding plastic (all apple products, at least the imacs, towers (yeah, G4 towers), and such, have the shielded plastic. You might not notice, but the monitors are two seperate parts, the front panel and the back

The cinema display, I'm guessing, has a light-up logo, but it's so dim, it's hard to tell, though it looks really cool

[frazzledglispa]

I have 1 stuck pixel (blue) on my year old 15 inch studio display, It took me three months to notice it, and I can only see it if the entire area surrounding it is black (generally if I am watching a DVD - which I do infrequently - I have a kick-ass Pioneer system that I watch my DVD's on.)

The problem is only on DVD's, and the only DVD I have watched in full on my Mac was Cube (cos I have a Cube - fab movie BTB.) So it has never been a problem.

[Jansar]

frazzledglispa, I must have the same exact setup as you, because I have the same problem. However, if you run OS X.1, do you notice random freezes when playing movies? If not, I better reinstall the OS.

[hayesk]

FYI, you can often "massage" dead pixels with a soft cloth and bring them back to life. My iBook had two and after I massaged them I hadn't had a problem since I did it over a year ago.

[cube-dude]

This is not a Power Mac specific topic so off it goes to Peripherals. Find thread there alive and well.