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Which Flat Screen is Best?
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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I am not sure which Mac flat screen I like better. The old flat screens with the stand were very pretty, as are the new ones. What do you guys think, which is better?
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i Think, therefore iMac.
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Other than the Cinema display and Apple's beautiful 15" Studio Display, I would never buy an LCD that wasn't pivotable. Many displays do provide this valuable function, and I wouldn't want to do without it.
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the old Apple LCD was highly ugly. the cinema display is of awesome form factor. pivotabilityness is cool. this response is in no way shape or form to be taken as the official opinion of MacNN
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I think that "ugly" might be a subjective term.
The old studio displays were very nice for their time. I remember comparing it to a Nokia 17" flatpanel and the Apple display blew the nokia's doors off. (if you'll excuse the idiom) The control level of the Apple display was far superior and the sharpness was as well. the only other display that could come close was the SGI display.
BTW- i'm writing this while gazing into the potons from a Cinema Display.
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-jjh
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I got the Samsung SyncMaster 770 TFT on the recommendation of Bugs Bunny (not the toon, the member of this forum!) and I never looked back. The trick is finding an LCD with a dot pitch of better than 0.28 mm. Very hard to find one bigger than 17". The Samsung is 0.265 mm and the the colors are crisp and bright. It gets my recommendation 100%. Anybody know the dot pitch of the Apple Cinema display?
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Dot pitch should be something like .255mm (I did some quick calculations based on 1600X1024, 22" diagonal), the Silicon Graphics display has the same pixel ratio but is only 17.3", resulting in a pitch of I think .233.
I may be wrong.
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Likin' the SGI display, minus the forest of cables I now have.
Good solution for a Powerbook.
Timo
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Newer 15" LCD owner here. "Pivot pedastal" or not, it's beautiful, very easy on my eyes, and adjusts to my tastes just fine.
From what i've seen in stores and heard from friends working at Apple, the newer 15" LCD is substantially brighter than the prior veresion.
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Join Date: Mar 2000
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Originally posted by Timo:
Likin' the SGI display... Good solution for a Powerbook.
Timo: Are you connecting the SGI display to your PB via VGA out and the Multilink adapter? Or via a Margi DVI PC Card? Are you able to run the SGI display at its full 1600x1024 native resolution? Finally, how much does the VGA/Multilink hookup degrade quality as compared to an all-digital hookup via DVI (if at all)?
I wonder whether SGI will come up with OS X drivers for this wonderful display. Apple really should have an adapter akin to the Multilink so that poor (actually rich  ) PowerBook users can use the Cinema Display as well.
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"The only laptop computer that's useful is the one you have with you."
Let's have a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook with AirPort and 5 hour battery life now!
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"The only laptop computer that's useful is the one you have with you."
Until we get a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook, the 12-inch PowerBook will do.
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The SGI 1600SW is one of nicest screens I have ever seen (and owned  ). It has 110ppi (I think), and OS X looks incredible on it. The only thing that I don't like about it is that it doesn't pivot L/R. Not a major complaint though.
[This message has been edited by maceye (edited 04-11-2001).]
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Originally posted by escher:
Timo: Are you connecting the SGI display to your PB via VGA out and the Multilink adapter? Or via a Margi DVI PC Card? Are you able to run the SGI display at its full 1600x1024 native resolution? Finally, how much does the VGA/Multilink hookup degrade quality as compared to an all-digital hookup via DVI (if at all)?
I posted some experiences with this set-up in a different thread here. My SGI is connected via VGA out to the Mulitlink, the Multilink in turn has its connection to the SGI panel. According to the sgi site, OS 9.1 supports the full 1600x1024 native resolution (though only at 1000s of colors), and this is my experience. I have that full screen in addition to the PB's 1024x768 display at millions of colors. Quite an extended desktop.
The VGA/Multilink arrangement results in a very clean looking screen that compares favorably to my PB's display, although on the far left of the screen I can see some noise. A few lines flickering at the far left's 1" -- I don't even notice it when that just background. Color and intensity is better on the SGI display than my PB (Firewire, purchased Oct 2000). Redraws seem like they may be a little slower now on both the PB's and SGI's screens, but I'm still getting a "feel" for it. Of course, since the SGI has crammed 1600x1024 into a 17" (diagonal) display, text and all else is smaller. But sharp!
I suspect the Margi set up might get rid of the noise, but I'm not at all sure. I think I'll live with it and save $250. I am very impressed my Pismo can drive this monitor.
Timo
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go for the SGI and don't look back. The cinema is nice, but with no swivel/tilt it's a bit tricky to view sometimes. Of course, the sgi is around $1500 for the bundle and $2999 for the cinema, so you get the benefit of the price too. I've run the cube+sgi at full res. with millions of colors for quite a while and boy it's amazing. I ran it w/ the vga->multilink with no problems under 9.1
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