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corp miler · Jul 18, 2002, 10:35 AM

What has changed on the new 10GB iPod and do you know of anyone with great deals on the current (old) model?

ericwass · Jul 18, 2002, 11:14 AM

It's all right there on Apple's website. Just look for yourself.

corp miler · Jul 18, 2002, 01:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ericwass:
It's all right there on Apple's website. Just look for yourself.<hr /></blockquote>"look for yourself"...this is the advice this forum offers? I thought Apple users had more comaraderie than this. Secondly this was a two part question and Apple.com does not have closeout iPods. Certainly I could search through all the online sites "myself" to find the best deal, but then that really defeats the purpose of a user forum.

gator · Jul 18, 2002, 01:27 PM

Changes in 10 GB:
- 10% thinner (0.72 inches now, 0.78 inches before)
- cover on firewire port
- includes case w/belt clip and new earphones, as well as wired remote
- now appears to have 1 year warranty (check specs page, look at bottom) versus 90 day warranty before

deals on old iPod:
Amazon has 5 GB for $299, 10 GB for $349 (add to cart to see prices).

Jul 18, 2002, 01:45 PM

Apple will honor the 1-year warranty even for the discontinued models.

ericwass · Jul 18, 2002, 06:12 PM

Sorry, you caught me in a mood. Had to snap at someone... might as well be some faceless name on the internet. My apologies. Nevertheless, the point, I think, is valid. I feel like these forums should be where you go when you've tried everything you can first. If we have a lot of people just asking questions without doing their homework it'll just end up being a lot of noise. I ask for a lot of help on these boards, and feel like I give it as well. But I never come here before I try to solve something myself. There's too much clutter already. Anyway, sorry again for being brusque... but in the future see what you dig up first, then let us know about it.

JEB · Jul 19, 2002, 03:04 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by corp miler:
What has changed on the new 10GB iPod and do you know of anyone with great deals on the current (old) model?<hr /></blockquote>I saw a picture of the new iPod on PowerMax.com . . . but it was for the previous 10Gig (listed for 349); be sure to check the serial numbers -- they're in Oregon and there is no sales tax there.

If you can get Apple education pricing, it's $369 (almost 400 w/ tax) . . . I went for it because of the new earphone control, free clip-on case, newer earphones, a tad thinner than the others . . . and heck, I've held out for so long -- finally getting one = wheeeee!

Whatever the price, it will bring back some nice music flow to life . . . mmm hmmm . . .

molow · Jul 19, 2002, 03:05 PM

Well said - ericwass! Thanks - some members just want easy fix.

Max8319 · Jul 19, 2002, 03:58 PM

so all of the advertisements around the internet for $350 10 gig ipods are actually for the previous generation, that aren't 10% thinner and come with the remote and case?

el lindo · Jul 19, 2002, 04:31 PM

That is correct. Probably.

slider · Jul 19, 2002, 04:59 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by molow:
Well said - ericwass! Thanks - some members just want easy fix.

<hr /></blockquote>Any body hearing of just ignoring a post, if you think this poster is wasting your time just don't reply. Who the hell are you to go around correcting other posters or establishing poster etiquette. Oh by all means, please censor me too.

Some people don't have time to sit in front of their computers and hunt down information, so they go to a reliable forum and ask questions that may seem obvious to you, not that it's any of your business. As far as I can tell this is still an "regular joe" users forum and not a pro user only forum. Main point, relativity.

Corp miler: looks like MacMall has some old 10GB iPods for $350 too. I looked around, and you'll want to be careful, outpost has the 5GB price corrected as does MacZone, but their older 10GB are still $500 when I checked.

Another thing you might want to keep in mind is the solid state scroll wheel, to me this and the remote and clip are worth the extra fifty.

Other things I found, the depth of all three players are different, with the new 10GB being the thinest @ 0.72in and the 20GB the thickest @ 0.84in. The biggest one is also the heaviest at 204g and the 5-10GB are the same weight at 185g. The solid state selector is only on the new 5 and 10's, the 5 is still the wheel selector, as far as I can tell it is exactly the same as the older 5 gigger, but I am not sure about the door cover for the firewire port.

Good hunting.

Leaping Gnome · Jul 19, 2002, 06:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by slider:
The solid state selector is only on the new 5 and 10's, the 5 is still the wheel selector, as far as I can tell it is exactly the same as the older 5 gigger, but I am not sure about the door cover for the firewire port.<hr /></blockquote>I think you mean the solid state selector is on the new 10 and 20s? AFAIK the 5gb model did not change anything except the price, no wheel, no remote, no door cover, no size change.

slider · Jul 19, 2002, 10:05 PM

Yes, that is what I meant, thanks. And thanks for the confirmation of an unchanged 5GB iPod.

ericwass · Jul 19, 2002, 11:01 PM

Slider, you're right. I've should've just ignored the post. It's just that when I saw the title, I actually thought the poster had some new info to offer ("10gb iPod changes and best price") Instead, it was just a question that I thought he could've easily answered himself and, like I said, I was already in a mood.

Of course, it's not my job to police bbs etiquette... but macs are my hobby and I do spend a lot of time here. So, as a member who tries hard to contribute, I don't think I'm completely off base in suggesting people try to do a little homework first on easy questions.

Anyway, whatever... water under the bridge. Post away, people. I'll stay out of it.

badtz · Jul 20, 2002, 04:23 AM

will they sell the door cover separately?

slider · Jul 20, 2002, 09:36 AM

ericwass
I appreciate your cool head and tactfulness.
I do understand your position.
slider

jfischetti · Jul 22, 2002, 09:01 AM

The best difference is the fact that the scroll wheel isn't a wheel anymore ---- it's a trackpad.

it detects your thumb movement a la Powerbook.....

the best part is that now, the center button stays fixed when you press it, so you can't advance your selection by pressing the button with a slight "twist" of your thumb....

I like it a lot better....

iamnid · Jul 23, 2002, 01:28 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> Another thing you might want to keep in mind is the solid state scroll wheel, to me this and the remote and clip are worth the extra fifty. <hr /></blockquote>I like how apple has been mentioning the "solid state wheel..." how many people actually knew what the heck that meant? I see that someone has posted that it is a track pad type thing -- is that really better? Has anyone used it? I could imagine that it would be inprecise.. the way if you aren't careful on an ibook trackpad the pointer flies all over the screen... also, wouldn't the wheel go crazy if it rubbed against something in your pocket? Then again, maybe not -- it certainly doesn't sound very advantageous to me.

Amorya · Jul 23, 2002, 05:02 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by iamnid:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr /> Another thing you might want to keep in mind is the solid state scroll wheel, to me this and the remote and clip are worth the extra fifty. <hr /></blockquote>I like how apple has been mentioning the "solid state wheel..." how many people actually knew what the heck that meant? I see that someone has posted that it is a track pad type thing -- is that really better? Has anyone used it? I could imagine that it would be inprecise.. the way if you aren't careful on an ibook trackpad the pointer flies all over the screen... also, wouldn't the wheel go crazy if it rubbed against something in your pocket? Then again, maybe not -- it certainly doesn't sound very advantageous to me.<hr /></blockquote>Trackpads are very precise when you get used to them... the reason your pointer flies all over the screen is either using more than one finger or just being unused to a trackpad. I've not used the one on the ipod but I imagine it'll be a lot better.

I want a 10G iPod now!

Amorya