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Apple 17" LCD vs. Viewsonic 21" CRT
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I currently have a Viewsonic graphic series 21" CRT monitor. It is a nice monitor, very bright and vivid colors, plus it supports very high resolutions. I have a G4/450 but I plan to upgrade, hopefully this week  , my question is, for those of you that would know, would it be worth it to get the Apple 17" LCD? I do mostly video work, everyday I use photoshop, premiere, and after effects, and I like to fool around with some 3d graphic work. How does video look on the apple LCD's? and is the resolution enough for my needs? also, color plays a big role in what I do, so how does the color compare to CRT's?
What I am really asking is, if I already have this nice 21" CRT, and I have enough room for it, would the apple LCD be an improvement in image quality, color, etc, or is it just thinner and looks cool? One more thing, how big is the 17" LCD in comparison to the 21" CRT, like what is 17" equivalent to? Thanks.
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Well, the only down point about the 17" monitor is that it is smaller. Here are some of the other reasons you should consider it:
1. Richer colors than CRT
2. 17" of screen viewable (as CRTs show less screen than the actual size of monitor)
3. Compact, looks cool, fits anywhere
4. Sucks power through DVI (it could use ADC though, because I have an older 15" display)
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Originally posted by Jansar:
<STRONG>Well, the only down point about the 17" monitor is that it is smaller. Here are some of the other reasons you should consider it:
1. Richer colors than CRT
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FYI, CRTs are known to have much more accurate colours than LCD displays. Print professionals still rely on CRTs for accurate colour work.
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The digital LCDs by Apple are great! One advantage that was missed was the additional USB ports.
I use a 22" cinima, and I would trade it for nothing. The colors look great. If you view it from an extreme angle you will see the color shift slightly. It's not an angle you would normaly work from though. Minimal cable mess is another advantage.
I think you should take a trip to an Apple store or another Apple provider and take a look at one. Bring in a file you are familiar with and play with it. The digital LCDs by Apple blow away any analog LCD monitors out there.
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Originally posted by hayesk:
<STRONG>
FYI, CRTs are known to have much more accurate colours than LCD displays. Print professionals still rely on CRTs for accurate colour work.</STRONG>
I guess the CRTs show a brighter color from every angle, but I always thought (from experience) that the LCDs show way better color.
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Originally posted by Deal:
<STRONG>The digital LCDs by Apple are great! One advantage that was missed was the additional USB ports.
I use a 22" cinima, and I would trade it for nothing. The colors look great. If you view it from an extreme angle you will see the color shift slightly. It's not an angle you would normaly work from though. Minimal cable mess is another advantage.
I think you should take a trip to an Apple store or another Apple provider and take a look at one. Bring in a file you are familiar with and play with it. The digital LCDs by Apple blow away any analog LCD monitors out there.</STRONG>
I've seen one of those 22" cinema displays at a store. Freakin gorgeous.
Too bad I'm just a poverty-stricken computer science student. I'll be using my Apple Multiple Scan CRT for a while yet......
[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: jcadam ]
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With a little bit of luck they'll be coming out with a 19" LCD soon... it will make a nice companion for my G5.  Dream dream dream...
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The Apple Studio Display (LCD) is a great display, the overall footprint should be something like a tenth of the dept of the viewsonic display.
I currently have both the Apple 17" LCD and the Viewsonic e790 display. Though the Viewsonic can achieve a much higher resolution (1600 x 1200 vs 1280 x 1024), there are some compromises involved. The big one for me happened to be the screen's refresh rate. Looking at a 75Hz screen for hours at a time, practically every day of the week is a great way to develop eye problems. Though I didn't quite get this far, I did notice my eyes start to tear up, have to work harder to focus.
The price tag on the Apple display is a bit hefty and most LCD panels tend to develop one to five dead pixels. Mine only has one and my viewsonic had one also. Both in roughly the same area of the display, imagine that..
I've not noticed much of a difference in the colors between the two, but the LCD is lighter, less of an eyesore, consumes less power, generates less heat & radiation.
I'm currently using the 19" CRT on my PC (currently a FreeBSD box). If you decide to get a PC to do UNIX work on, make into a server or whatever, you may wish to keep the CRT.
The 17" is pretty much equivalent to a 19"CRT. Its native resolution is the same as the highest refresh rate to choose from on most CRT.
Apple currently does not ship an LCD display that offers a resolution comparable to the max on your 22" viewsonic, which I'm assuming is 1920 x 1440 or something close to that. (Cinema 22" LCD is 1600 x 1024)
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I have a cinema display, and to say color uniformity not existing on LCD's is not true.
However, it takes about 30 minutes to 1 hour (like most all monitors) for the screen to 'warm' up, once that happens you can't notice anything.
Anyhow, I can't say too much, it is true color accuracy can be different, but I like to think the opposite. lol.. because pictures look so much brighter, prettier, and brilliant on a LCD than a CRT, they make things look better
Get one, believe me after setting it just right things look better, especially games. They look cool too!
Oh, and there is one thing I forgot... They have touch-sensitive buttons, there's one on the brightness label and one on the power label. All you have to do is tap the monitor and your computer turns on
The cinema display isn't so great there because the power button is UNDER the screen, and you have to reach kinda hard to touch it, it's a regular button.
But I have brightness buttons
[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: JoeG4 ]
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The biggest advantage is the footprint. That 21" CRT probably takes up a big chunk of the desk. The 17" would also look more attractive on your desk. The 21" however does show brighter colors, faster refresh rate, larger screen.
Your call. I would only replace a 21" like that with a 22" LCD display. The resolution is lower, but it's a nice LCD.
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Thanks for the info everybody. I'll check out the displays in a store, but I think I am just going to end up sticking with the CRT and spending my money on something else.
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