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CDRs and the G4 Cube
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nathanr
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I am currently debating whether to get the Cube or the Tower G4. The only thing I would want to add (and the most important) is a CDR. I know I can use a USB CDR with the Cube but I have heard that they are slow and crappy...so I was wondering, are there any good Firewire drives? If so, are they better than SCSI? Or should I just get the Tower with a SCSI drive? I would rather have the cube because of its small footprint, but if the CDR is going to suck Ill get the tower.
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Clinically Insane
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Personally I would get a Tower with SCSI. It allows for much more expansion...
However, if the deciding factor is the burner, then FireWire is fine for burners.
And infinitely better than USB...
Check out the Yamaha 8824FZ at www.yamaha.com or www.yanaha.co.jp/english/ or whatever.
If you're worried about FireWire burners being crap - don't. Their the next best thing to SCSI. And some people would say even better...
But thats another argument.
Cipher13
[This message has been edited by Cipher13 (edited 09-06-2000).]
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA
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FireWire is definitely the way to go if you get the Cube. USB doesn't always burn well at 4X which is the max. speed. FireWire burners are already at 12X and will go up over time.
If you aren't sure which to get, go for the Tower. At list price, the Cube is $200 more. For that you get 50 more MHz than the Tower (which most users won't notice) and almost no room for expansion. The Cube is something that most people will buy for the design or because they don't have enough room available, but from a technical aspect, it isn't the practical choice.
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Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: London, England
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Although SCSI burners still have the edge on burning reliability vs the good Firewire ones, it's only a small gap in performance/reliability (although there seem to be a lot of people who have bought 'lemons' in the Firewire CD-RW market). Unless you're burning CDs all the time, there's no need to have the CDRW connected to your machine all the time, so a Firewire drive is a little more practical and has less potential problems with IDs, termination etc.
Personally, I've just upgraded from a G3 B/W to a Cube (just got it yesterday), and I'll be using my Freecom Traveller 4x4x24 drive (Firewire and USB connections) with my Cube and iBook.
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Pasadena
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I agree with Paul, if you don't care about the design so much, go for the tower, it'll be much more flexible and easier to put upgrades in.
As for Zwilnik's comments, modern SCSI doesn't really have termination problems, and can be software terminated (software generally bundled with SCSI device or free d/l). But yeah, FireWire is the way to go.
Cipher 'n I have always advocated for Yamaha burners. While they are not the fastest, they are the most reliable.
Oh, and lastly, price for a FireWire burner probably runs to 'bout the same as an external SCSI buner + SCSI card, unless you get the 2930 SCSI BTO from Apple, which will save you $20 or so (one of few if not the only option that is cheaper to BTO from Apple...)
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