Can someone recomend (new or old) a 15" LCD that would go with my new IceBook?

I've got an Apple graphite Studio Display LCD I'm not using. It's the one with the DVI connector, not the newer ADC type. It's a refurbished unit from Apple that I bought before getting my 17" Samsung LCD. $450 and I pay shipping anywhere in the lower 48.

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Originally posted by rambo47:
I've got an Apple graphite Studio Display LCD I'm not using. It's the one with the DVI connector, not the newer ADC type. It's a refurbished unit from Apple that I bought before getting my 17" Samsung LCD....

rambo47, Do you do any design/graphic work with your LCD? just wondering on the performance of the LCD in your opinion.
thanks, DMK

Originally posted by rambo47:
I've got an Apple graphite Studio Display LCD I'm not using. It's the one with the DVI connector, not the newer ADC type. It's a refurbished unit from Apple that I bought before getting my 17" Samsung LCD. $450 and I pay shipping anywhere in the lower 48.

Sorry, need a VGA connector.

Originally posted by DMK:
rambo47, Do you do any design/graphic work with your LCD? just wondering on the performance of the LCD in your opinion.
thanks, DMK

I'm not rambo47, but I have done design and graphic work on the Apple 15" LCD and it's pretty good for the task, so long as you can tolerate the lack of real estate for palettes and toolbars.

The only graphics stuff I do is some basic Photoshop tasks. I'm no designer, that's for sure! I love the Samsung I've got. The screen has a dot pitch rating of 0.264 so images are sharp and clear. Color is accurate as well. Of course many graphics pros will probably tell you the colors on an LCD are not accurate enough for real pro work, but opinions differ on this subject. I've heard many people say this misconception is based on the old LCDs that really were inferior. Gamers often say the LCD is not responsive enough for action games like Quake2 or Quake3. I can tell you first hand that argument is pure bull. Unreal Tournament and the like look like a smooth animated movie on my Samsung. No ghosting or any of the other problems hard core gamers claim plague LCDs. Perhaps in the days of passive matrix screens, but not now!

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[This message has been edited by rambo47 (edited 05-11-2001).]

Thanks for clearing some of my concerns, DMK

If you can wait, MacOSRumors.com in today's update is saying there will be two new Apple LCD displays in July at MWNY.

If true, this means Apple will have four LCD displays (15", 17", 19", 22"). Elsewhere on the web, I heard that the Apple 17" CRT will be discontinued.

Two new flat-panel displays at Macworld New York Rumor
According to a reliable source at one of Apple's key enclosure component manufacturers, Cupertino is putting the finishing touches on two new Flat Panel displays -- one normal-aspect model in the 17-inch ballpark, another with a wide-screen aspect at around 19 inches. Both will sport a sleek new enclosure style that will "remind you of the new iBook and also of the original dark-blue 15" Studio Display" according to the source.

If Apple's projections for availability are met, both are set to be announced at Macworld New York in late July.

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rambo47 what samsung model do you own? I am curious also to what rez its capable of?

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Sam's Club has 15 SVGA for $399 & 17" SVGA LCD for $899.
I using a 17" with my Pismo as my second monitor. Great to have 2 screens to use in Photoshop....... Try that with the new IceBooks!!!!!


Steve

Originally posted by rambo47:
I've got an Apple graphite Studio Display LCD I'm not using. It's the one with the DVI connector, not the newer ADC type.

Does the new iBook support DVI output of video? Might be worth checking first...

what sort of adaptor is required to connect a DVI or ADC to VGA? And why does apple not stick with a frikkin standard like everyone else????

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Originally posted by hotani:
what sort of adaptor is required to connect a DVI or ADC to VGA? And why does apple not stick with a frikkin standard like everyone else????

Someone now makes a box to convert from ADC to VGA, but it's like $200.

Apple is just trying to make life easier by only using one cable to go from the Monitor to the computer. I think it's a good idea, but it sucks that you can't use a Apple monitor with an older machine. The question should be, Why is the industry so slow to change what kind of connectors they use!?!?!

As far as I understand, the iBook only supports mirroring, not extended desktop.
You will never be able to use an iBook and an external monitor next to eachother in extended desktop mode (the way you can with the PowerBook), because although the graphics set appears to be the same as in the PB, Apple has disabled this feature (presumably to protect PB sales) deliberately.
You will never be able to run a DVI-D or ADC display from an iBook, because VGA is analogue and ADC and DVI-D are digital.
There is no converter (the only thing that converts the signal is the sgi MultiLink adapter for the 1600SW display, but that uses connectors that you can only get to work with the sgi 1600SW display, and there are issues with that (see peripheral forum).
You do not have a PC-card slot on the iBook, so you cannot use the Margi Display-to-go card either.
I do not know if you can run an external display of the iBook with the lid closed and an external keyboard and mouse (like the PB), but that seems the only possible solution that would make any sense to you.
You will need to get at least an17" LCD, all 15" LCDs have the same resolution as your iBook and you would throw your money out of the window, you would not gain anything but size.
There are plenty of VGA 17" and 18" LCDs, but this is quite expensive.
There is plenty of Video RAM in the iBook to drive an external monitor up to 1600x1024/1200 at 24bbp when you do not use the built-in display.
I doubt, though that Apple would let you do this. You better check, though.

Originally posted by JTVD1:

You will never be able to run a DVI-D or ADC display from an iBook, because VGA is analogue and ADC and DVI-D are digital.
There is no converter (the only thing that converts the signal is the sgi MultiLink adapter for the 1600SW display, but that uses connectors that you can only get to work with the sgi 1600SW display, and there are issues with that (see peripheral forum).

Actually Griffen or someone makes a VGA -> ADC adapter.

Originally posted by JTVD1:
I do not know if you can run an external display of the iBook with the lid closed and an external keyboard and mouse (like the PB)

it can be run with lid closed and external monitor, keyboard, mouse attached.

You will need to get at least an17" LCD, all 15" LCDs have the same resolution as your iBook and you would throw your money out of the window, you would not gain anything but size.

the ibook only supports 1024x768 on any monitor, so all you are gaining is size in any case, but as they say: "size does matter..."

There are plenty of VGA 17" and 18" LCDs, but this is quite expensive.
There is plenty of Video RAM in the iBook to drive an external monitor up to 1600x1024/1200 at 24bbp when you do not use the built-in display.
I doubt, though that Apple would let you do this. You better check, though.

see above... Apple is rumored to be releasing a new 17" LCD, and 19" widescreen LCD at MWNY this summer - both of which sound very juicy to me, but unfortunately for roofus, myself, and the rest of the iBook community they will probably have the proprietary (such an ugly word!) ADC cable and thus be useless to us.

Its funny how Apple forces its own loyal customers to buy third-party hardware...

Bad Apple, bad.


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