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Clear up confusion on SCSI!!
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burntfrog
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May 22, 2000, 02:58 AM
 
Hi, I am in need of a fast harddrive this fall, sometyhing capable of good video output and high rpm and I noticed that there is:
ultra scsi
ultra2 scsi
wide scsi
ultra wide scsi
scsi3

what on earth do I choose? which is better? and which fits my student salary. just something fast enough to do video. thank you!
     
oscar
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May 22, 2000, 03:02 AM
 
What kinda mac do you have now?

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burntfrog
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May 22, 2000, 03:06 AM
 
I have a G3/350 now, but for college I plan on having either a G3 or G4 400 or 450
     
dabradda
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May 22, 2000, 04:03 AM
 
umm... are you talking about dv or analog video editing? dv video comes into the machine at around 3.6MB/sec. analog comes in much quicker. for dv, an ata/66 should be enough, so you can save some money, or get a bigger drive. however, if youre going into analog video, i would go for the ultra scsi2. be sure and get the right scsi card to match the type of drive you have, or something might blow up...

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May 22, 2000, 05:08 AM
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't SCSI 3 the same as Ultra160? Or something like that... are they the same? If not, what is ultra 160 - i believe it is the newest, fastest SCSI...

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Misha
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May 22, 2000, 06:58 AM
 
I'd go with either Ultra2 SCSI (80 MB/sec) or Ultra160 (160 MB/sec). Both are far superior to any other drive/system out there, and will make your Mac significantly snappier.
www.macinfo.de has a good article on the different kinds of SCSI, but the site is currently down.
     
burntfrog
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May 22, 2000, 12:02 PM
 
so, can I use any type of scsi drive with my mac?
     
JoeH
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May 22, 2000, 12:47 PM
 
Just remember, no matter what Adaptec card you buy and no matter what scsi cable you buy, speed is very dependant on your hard drive's RPMs. So, if you buy a cheap 5400 ata drive or even a cheap 7200 scsi drive the throughput is only going to be so high. Not only do you have to buy the right card and cable, but you will have to buy the right hard drive. I agree with the others that if you're not going to need high quality video then a cheap hard drive will do just fine, but a $600 Ultra 160 (10,000 RPM) Cheetah will do you wonders.
     
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May 22, 2000, 12:51 PM
 
Just another note:
I don't think the technology is out there yet to go above the 80MB/sec. transfer rate do to SCSI cable limitations. Everywhere I have read shows the Ultra 160 drives running 10,000 RPMs with an transfer rate of only 80MB/sec. But hey, that still f***** fast.
     
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May 22, 2000, 12:54 PM
 
I have the same question - any drive will work with any card, just not as fast as you may want, right?
     
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May 22, 2000, 02:11 PM
 
     
JoeH
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May 22, 2000, 02:45 PM
 
In theory, yes. But if I were you, I'd check with the company to make sure.
     
exa
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May 22, 2000, 06:50 PM
 
Doesn't RAID overcome that problem where you can't get over 80mb/s? I mean, wouldn't you get faster rates with 4 15000 rpm cheetas?
     
   
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