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Easier way to watch TV on Macs in the Netherlands?
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Jan 20, 2008, 02:19 AM
 
Hi guys,

My friends has a Macbook and a Intel iMac. He lives in a 54 feet long boat in the Netherlands, space is an issue, price is too. So, he wants to use his Macs (at least his 20" iMac) as a TV.

I can guess there must be a USB kind of device (El gato) that may make his TVs to work with the TV provider (KPN, Digitenne).

I can guess some of you may have had this problem before, so any input is very welcomed. This is new territory for me, thus I do not have an opiniated feed back.
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Jan 20, 2008, 08:15 AM
 
From what I can gather from a quick search, KPN/Digitenne are a combination of pay-TV over DVB-T (i.e. digital broadcast over terrestrial antenna). The encoding is Smart-Card-based.

The only Smart-Card-capable TV decoder that elgato offers is (regrettably) the eyeTV 310 - which is only for DVB-S (satellite), not for DVB-T, so it looks like elgato is out of the equation.

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Jan 20, 2008, 08:29 AM
 
wow, I'll have to educate myself on this

So KPN may not be the best service, I see.
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Jan 20, 2008, 08:43 AM
 
Just plain-Jane DVB is free, and the elgato eyeTV for DVB-T is €50.

If he actually sails his boat or is in an area with mediocre coverage, he might want to look at the dual-tuner version, which is around €125. That allows you to tie both receivers together to improve reception.

Just from glancing over the site, though, KPN offers some neat features, and I have no idea at all whether there is a full complement of channels available over the free DVB-T yet - over here (Germany), the selection of channels is a little different from regular cable, and it's still missing a couple that I'd like to get. It has a couple of extra goodies, though, that I appreciate.
     
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Jan 21, 2008, 03:41 AM
 
Originally Posted by analogika View Post
The only Smart-Card-capable TV decoder that elgato offers is (regrettably) the eyeTV 310 - which is only for DVB-S (satellite), not for DVB-T, so it looks like elgato is out of the equation.
If you can find a 410 (which seems to be discontinued), it's a DVB-T model with a CI slot.

I'm using one right now, FireWire- daisychained to a 310 doing satellite
     
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Jan 21, 2008, 03:50 AM
 
I have an eyeTV (DBVB-T) which works well. Although I don't really use it (not much of a TV person).
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