[milhous]

Apple's New Digital Device 10/23

Please let it be the return of the Newton! (despite the rumor)

Dear Uncle Steve:

I've been a good boy so far this year, can we PLEASE HAVE A FREAKIN' 2002 NEWTON running POCKET X ?

Or.... my wrists look very cuttable

[macvillage.net]

I wish.

[seanyepez]

Probably an MP3 player on crack...

[Nebagakid]

Whatever it will be , you wont be able to purchase it until November, that is just the way they are....or are they

it will be PDA running a version of Mac OS X with the dock, to load all those programs... It will be color have about 5 hours of battery life, sync up with FIREWIRE, and one will be able to attach different modules (such as Digital Camera) and use those with already made software..

Also, this will serverly impact iTools somehow...with all the boosts, they are asking for something.

COOL THOUGHT: they make it so it uses AirPort, and then people can access public base stations.. Even though there arent many mac users with airport. that would be cool, so people who dont care about giving some of their bandwidth away can share and be good make users...... it could happen

[macvillage.net]

Being able to use a palm pilot or any PDA over 802.11b would be awesome

[btober]

Bring it on!

LONG LIVE THE NEWTON!!

Lookie:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displays.../24/51222/2909


I'll bet it's not, though. Prob'ly some MP3 gizmo Steve's all excited about. Oy.

[WTWolfe]

I would really like to see Bluetooth supported. From what I read it would be an awesome IRDA replacement...it works from a greater distance and no stupid line of site constraints. I mean heck 3Com just came out with a USB Bluetooth adapter.

[FERRO]

A Newton2 in every stocking!

OSX-like OS, MP3, Airport, etc.

that would make my year!

[scarab]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
<STRONG>Being able to use a palm pilot or any PDA over 802.11b would be awesome </STRONG>

Some of the PocketPCs can do so already.

I want a PDA too, even though I am not too optimistic.

[scarab]

It will be great if the device turns out to be a tablet... That'll be the best thing to happen to student mac users

[Nebagakid]

For an Internet HD, they can use the 1GB IBM MicroDrive. Macthbook size who pump out the back of a PDA

[new newton]

'Pocket X' won't be used in any new Newton. Newton was a PDA first and foremost, not a desktop wedged into a pocket. Ah well, not everyone would understand I suppose.

[scarab]

Originally posted by new newton:
<STRONG>'Pocket X' won't be used in any new Newton. Newton was a PDA first and foremost, not a desktop wedged into a pocket. Ah well, not everyone would understand I suppose.</STRONG>

Ah yes... Even the term 'PDA' were coined by the Apple guys. Apple's vision is just quite amazing sometimes!

[michaelb]

Originally posted by scarab:
<STRONG>Ah yes... Even the term 'PDA' were coined by the Apple guys. Apple's vision is just quite amazing sometimes!</STRONG>

I thought it was coined by Star Trek. Oh, that was 'PADD', my mistake!

Here's me... intently scanning my downloaded 'Enterprise' .wmv videos (only way to get it in Australia) for sighting of Newtons among the "antique" Federation technology of an Enterprise that still thinks Warp 4.5 is a pretty neat idea...

[mmurray]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
<STRONG>Being able to use a palm pilot or any PDA over 802.11b would be awesome </STRONG>

You can - there are CF cards I think for the IPAQ and www.xircom.com
make Springboard modules for the Visor and attachments for the
50x palms.

Michael

[amrosario]

I'm an Apple investor and I hope the new device is NOT a Newton. I loved my Newton and prefered it over the Palm (except in size) but I can't see Apple competing in this area, with players like HandSpring and Palm losing so much money.

For Apple to put out a PDA (in today's market) would be like Porsche going into the motor oil business.

[michaelb]

Originally posted by amrosario:
<STRONG>I'm an Apple investor and I hope the new device is NOT a Newton.</STRONG>

Don't worry, I think your shares are safe. (Actually they're screwed at the moment but that's 'cause everything on NASDAQ is down the toilet.)

I think you're more likely to see vegetarian Steve pull a gun and hunt his own meat than resurrect Sculley's baby.


At least for Sculley, though, his was on the market longer than Steve's baby...





I love 'em both.

[vmarks]

Do you use those newtons?

I keep thinking about getting one, but the only things within my price range are the 130 model.. (looking at spending a hundred, not much more...)

How useful is it to you? or is it just a collectors piece?

The last time I had my hands on one was at the smithsonian, they were the self-guided tour devices for the star wars myth and magic exhibit.

Victor Marks
lvmarks@mac.com

[fussili]

The moment I read the press release I started drooling, it has to be a PDA, it just HAS to be! Please steve!! Please!

I am a student and I use my palm IIIc in every class but I've been waiting patiently for ever to get my hands on an Apple PDA. Mac Os Rumours details some of the technology apple has been investing in (ie; inkwell a new handwriting recognition software protocol *Hint Hint*).

It won't be called a newton as that's just not something Steve can do, he axed it in 1997 precisely because it was legacy tech and he wanted to move apple on. The new product if it's a PDA will probably be newton in all but name. Jobs sacked a whole lot of board members but the techs in apple remain pretty much the same so I would have thought that some of the old team would have been working on SOMETHING PDA-ish in the time.

And as for Pocket X.. Yes please!! I've run X from late Beta and nothing would be cooler than being able to sync my PDA with X in a more complete manner.

You know it's surprisingly hard to eat and type when you have your fingers crossed as tightly as I have but I'm sure it'll pay off!

[Immortal K-Mart Employee]

Originally posted by WTWolfe:
<STRONG>I would really like to see Bluetooth supported. From what I read it would be an awesome IRDA replacement...it works from a greater distance and no stupid line of site constraints. I mean heck 3Com just came out with a USB Bluetooth adapter.</STRONG>

You should read more info on it. It interferes with Airport and is very slow in comparison. Not to mention it has a range of about 11 feet and costs a bloody fortune for the bluetooth adapters.

I would love to see someone buy a bluetooth adapter for $300 instead of use a $15 cable.

Airort is better then it in almost every way.

[ewdavi0]

check out this paten number application, July 2001

us20010008000ki

new apple pda?

[The Ancient One]

If you're drooling over the prospect of a new Newton, check this out. This link just appeared on macrumors.com (which is NOT MOSR):
http://www.spymac.com/

I'd be surprised if this was for real, but, who knows? We'll all find out tomorrow.

[geek77]

Originally posted by The Ancient One:
<STRONG>If you're drooling over the prospect of a new Newton, check this out. This link just appeared on macrumors.com (which is NOT MOSR):
http://www.spymac.com/

I'd be surprised if this was for real, but, who knows? We'll all find out tomorrow.</STRONG>

Photos? Yeah right. Those are rendered images... and not very good ones at that. Way too much reflection, no caustics, then they added a shitload of noise to try and cover up the flaws... what a joke of a site. scam.

[The Ancient One]

Awww... you noticed

[geek77]

note to self: Shitload isn't on the censored word list.

[Nebrie]

Originally posted by ewdavi0:
<STRONG>check out this paten number application, July 2001

us20010008000ki

new apple pda?</STRONG>

What does this one have to do with Apple?\

Inventors: Kikinis, Dan; (Saratoga, CA) ; Dornier, Pascal; (Sunnyvale, CA) ; Seiller, William J.; (Scotts Valley, CA)

[Kickaha]

Read the whole thing... it sounds like it was modeled after the Newton, and in fact, they reference the Newton explicitly, while Palm wasn't mentioned anywhere that I saw. (But hey, I wear glasses...)

Of course, you're right in that it isn't attributed to Apple in any way explicitly. (Are patents normally filed in the name of the inventor, and transferred to the company on award, to help hide the patent from prying competitors? I wonder...)

[fussili]

how does one go about loading that?


I went to the US patent office site and used the number search but it didn't work. =/

[fussili]

how does one go about loading that?


I went to the US patent office site and used the number search but it didn't work. =/

Try this link.

Pretty nifty; it's basically a PDA on a PC Card. I seriously doubt this has anything to do with Apple, since the PBG4 is the only Apple machine to have a PC Card slot, and besides, they're into wireless.

Alex

Ok, why didn't that work?

Anyway, you can go to uspto.gov and search for patent application 20010008000.

Alex

[michaelb]

Originally posted by vmarks:
<STRONG>Do you use those newtons?

I keep thinking about getting one, but the only things within my price range are the 130 model.. (looking at spending a hundred, not much more...)

How useful is it to you? or is it just a collectors piece?</STRONG>

Sorry for the late reply, I'm an infrequent visitor.

While I do switch the Newton 2000 on from time to time to scribble a few ideas, I have to be honest and say I have a Palm m505 which travels with me almost exclusively.

It's the size... and the easy USB HotSync'ing... and the color picture ability... and the size... and the sexy metallic feel... and the size... and the fact that I've become pretty expert with Graffiti... and the size.





If there had ever been a Newton in the form factor of the Palm, I believe PDA history would be very different.

When and where is steve's presentation?

V.