[kansir]

I am looking forward the Palm m505, it is my dream Palm handheld.
64k color, USB hotsync, 8MB RAM, flash ROM, MMC/SD memory slot, Palm Vx size.

What a powerful handheld you can ever get before ?

I must buy m505 when It comes to Hong Kong.

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Kansir
Learning everyday, Enjoy everyday.

[TimmyDee51]

You want power in a handheld? Try the Newton 2100. 162 MHz processor. 4 MB RAM, 4 MB ROM. 2 PC Card slots. Real handwriting recognition. I don't want to sound mean, but the Newton is far more powerful than anything Palm or Visor have ever introduced.

[kansir]

I know that Newton is very powerful, but Apple don't sell it anymore, right?

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Kansir
Learning everyday, Enjoy everyday.

[BigMark]

IMO, the Newton failed because the OS was so different from the Mac OS i.e not straightforward. I enthusiastically bought one before heading to university but became dismayed at how awkward and plain difficult it was working my way around the system and getting basic things to work. It was also too big, unwieldy and I *hated* how I had to buy a horrible blocky adaptor to plug in a keyboard. Bloody awful stuff.
Yeah, the backlit screen was nice, as was the appearance with different font choices available.
I sold it within months after never having been able to use it constructively.

The WSJ reviewed the new Palms and said to stay away from the 505 -- it just isn't "there" yet. They liked the 500.

[TimmyDee51]

I find the Newton OS to be incredibly simple. If you look at ever other handheld OS out there, they are all cheap imitations of the Newton OS. I can't think of any better way to navigate via a pen. In fact, most of the old Newton people are working for M$ or Palm on their handheld OSes. Too bad they don't hold a candle to the Newton.

kansir, no, Apple doesn't make them any more. Still, that means they can be had for amazing prices. Especially now since the market just got flooded by 2100s with 32 MB cards.

[TimmyDee51]

By the way, the Newton didn't "fail." It was axed. By Jobs. In fact, when he cut it off, the Newton division was profitable and almost completely spun-off.

[Paul Guyot]

OK, I have a theory of why the Newton was axed. Take it as you want. It's not the usual Jobs vs Sculley thing.

With NewtonOS, Apple had two sold OSes. MacOS which was becoming old and NewtonOS.
They were looking for a multi-preemptive threaded OS, with protected memory to supply something more stable than MacOS. NewtonOS was that (and in fact much more than that).

When Steve arrived, it would be so evident that NeXTSTEP was the older OS at Cupertino's that he preferred to axe NewtonOS. Indeed, NewtonOS is much more advanced than NeXTSTEP, for many, many reasons. And what would have been NewtonOS if it had improved for the last three years?
X is already a failure (so slow, so many good innovations of MacOS axed) it would have been much more evident.

Paul

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Newton Evangelist and developer:
http://www.kallisys.com/newton/

[kansir]

Is there any web site introduce Newton?
I want to find more information about it.

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Kansir
Learning everyday, Enjoy everyday.

[TimmyDee51]

Try hometown.aol.com/thisoldnewt/index2.html and www.info-newt.com . They each have a good deal of links and info on their sites. Give them a shot.

[scaught]

Originally posted by GR:
The WSJ reviewed the new Palms and said to stay away from the 505 -- it just isn't "there" yet. They liked the 500.

ya. until palm can increase the screen resolution beyond 160x160, it doesnt matter how many colors you try and pry on the thing, its going to look like the screen on a tomagotchi compared to the PPCs of the world.

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scott