[f1000]

Originally Posted by Krusty

Guess this makes it the first time the laptop + cellphone data has REALLY come in handy. I emailed my roommate (still at work) and girlfriend and warned them off of trying to come here any time soon. Now, I'm (slowly) posting on MacNN. This ROCKS !!!

edit: power just came back on 4:09 PM

Bluetooth drains cell phone batteries quickly, so use it sparingly. Oh, and kudos to the power company for getting your power back up so quickly.

[Krusty]

Originally Posted by f1000

Bluetooth drains cell phone batteries quickly, so use it sparingly. Oh, and kudos to the power company for getting your power back up so quickly.

Yes, I know about the BT, I actually use it fairly often and I typically only get a full day's use out of my phone when I use BT (vs 3 or so if I don't). The power was actually out for what I'm estimating to be over an hour (battery backup should have lasted about 40 min and I was home without power for a good 30 before I got around to posting on MacNN ... I was doing my emailings, etc for the first bit and actually took a phone call too before coming here). The power came on literally as I was hitting 'Post Quick Reply'.

On a side note, I was able to test my phone again yesterday in a part of town with solid full-bar reception on my phone. 127k was the absolute maximum I was able to get (it was solidly in the 115k - 125k range for most of the short tests I performed on the mspeed site I linked above). This is on a Class 10 EDGE device. Must just be the limits of the network in this area. Still, I'm happy with it ... its essentially 2-3x dial-up speeds anywhere for about the same as a "premium" dial-up account.

One final note, I DID buy the new laptop last week (stock iBook 12" which includes 512mb, BT 2.0, Airport Extreme, and a Core Graphics capable GPU). I was looking at a refurb 12" PB but the new iBook came with with all the wireless tech I wanted built-in, so I jumped on that during my state's Tax Free Weekend (still took Apple 10 days to get it shipped to me). I have a desktop, so I really wasn't looking for a powerhouse laptop .. just something very portable that i didn't have to BTO to get what I wanted for less than $1k. For the first time in my life, I really needed a laptop ... I'm a Property Manager (ex-Winblows programmer as of 2002) and due to my tech-oriented past have become the default go-to-guy for setting up our weekly vacation rental properties with high-speed wireless (as individual property owners decide to add it). The roughly 560 properties we manage are spread out across 2 islands with about 25 miles between the east edge of one island and the west edge of the other. Each time I go to set up a new router/modem combo, I have no clue what to expect as far as hardware type and brand that the individual owner purchased nor am I even guaranteed that the service is actually up and running at all until I get there. Basically, our owners buy cable or DSL at their discretion, get whatever modem the service provider is sending at the time and then buy whatever wireless router they feel like. The possible combinations of setups is virtually endless and requires tailoring the setup to whatever they have and *trying* to standardize the settings so that they will be easily supported in the future (so guests can just power-cycle and have everything working when it comes back up). Previously, I had difficulty scheduling the company laptop, had to provide my own wireless card and was sunk if I got to the property 15 miles from the office and found that it didn't work for some reason, requiring me to drive miles back to the office, seek out proper settings online for the specific hardware in the property, print out what I *hoped* was comprehensive instructions for getting the service/modem/router humming along nicely together, reschedule the laptop at a time I could get back in the property, etc. I wasted a heck of a lot of time (mostly on properties I don't even manage directly) for some pretty stupid reasons and the company laptop was a total piece o' shite Dell from the Win98 era that literally took 7-8 minutes to boot (into XP) and would randomly quit working properly for some reason requiring me to spend more time troubleshooting the machine than the wireless setup (or at the very least, a lengthy reboot cycle to get it working again). It was my own private little hell since this is something that normally takes me 5 or 10 minutes to do when I have decent equipment and the ability to research on-the-fly.

There ... I've vented about why this whole tethering + iBook thing is such a freakin' godsend for me

[crozlo]

Ok, This is officially frustrating...

I have not yet tried the "faulty phone" approach yet, but I'm back up in Avila Beach, CA, with full bars at 2am - a week later i might add to account for any network maintenance, etc.

...and I'm still getting:

Download Speed: 74 kbps (9.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 44 kbps (5.5 KB/sec transfer rate)

s710a (Class 10 EDGE)
PB G4 Al 15" 1.5 ghz

Everything works great, connects reliably, holds connection great. I'm just NOT getting EDGE speeds. I get MUCH slower speeds in Santa Barbara, CA - only GPRS fast - (which I can't explain because its actually a more populated and more sophisticated market) but up here near San Luis Obispo my speed tests are always the same:

the test starts slow, climbs quickly to about 130kbps and then sharply drops back to somewhere in the neighborhood of 75. My upload speed doesn't do this - it just slowly climbs to its final figure, always about 45kbps.

This is EXACTLY what it was doing last week up here - still the fastest speeds I've attained - but HARDLY Class 10 worthy.

I will go to a Cingular store next and see if my phone is phunky - which I suppose is the only next logical step at this point for me - but I had to get curious openly and see if anyone thinks I should try tweaking my settings while i'm up here in Avila getting faster connect speeds and see if that starts to give some results.

Thanks for the help, all.

[rancidbry]

I've had been trying to connect for about 2 weeks now. I've tried all the scripts and all the dialing combinations. My computer or cell phone consistently disconnects at the authentications stage. The most popular configuration is what I've been trying the most:

script: Sony Ericsson 3G CID5
Telephone Number: wap.cingular
Account Name: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password: CINGULAR1

I'm trying to connect through my S710a with my Powerbook G4 15" running Tiger. I used to connect through AT&T using my T616 no problem. For some reason the change in service and upgrade in phone caused some huge problems.
What do you think the authentication problem is? Did you get your configuration to work. If so, how? Thanks so much.

http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2662607#
http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2662607#
http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2662607#

Originally Posted by Jupeman

Not much:
"Aug 21 16:09:44 Powerbook ppd[838]: Connect script failed"

Should the Pbook automatically connect with the phone or to I have to establish a new connection each time (e.g., browse the device). I never see the Powerbook and Phone connect via Bluetooth when attempting to connect. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.

[nationwide]

i just want to back up the last reply, cingular doesn't offer a media package anymore with mms, text and media net. unless you are the ones like i am and i got the media package about 9 months ago that included unlimited media net, 1500 text msg and 250 mms(picture or video mgs). i was about to cancel the package i had until i started reading how you can use your phone as a wireless modem. right now i have a sony t616 but i plan on upgrading to a nokia 6682 or a 6230, my only problem is am trying to figure out which phone has better recieption and better download speeds. anyone with any info please feel to email me or send me a link to who has these download test. thanks

[nationwide]

Originally Posted by f1000

Cingular's lineup of EDGE with Bluetooth® phones as of 6/20/2005:

• Palm Treo 650 (Class 10)
• Motorola V551 (Class 4)
• Sony Ericsson s710a (Class 10)
• Nokia 6620 (Class ??)
• Nokia 6230 (Class 10)

The Motorola RAZR V3 isn't one of them, although future RAZRs and SLVRs will be.

Here a question i got about the nokia 6230, PC Magazine did a test on the nokia 6230 and claimed they got an average 160kbps download. i was so impress with this i almost gave up waiting for the nokia 6682 to be released the first of September. But i called nokia and they told me that the 6230 is not a class 10 but in fact it was a class 6 edge and class 10 gprs. Now this confused me even more because as i'm sure you know the 6682 will be a class 10 phone but when PC Magazine tested it they got only about 120kbps average. What gives? Even though the 6682 isn't out yet, some people have been lucky to already have one as evident the phones are already on ebay.I know these test were done using a PC but can anyone confirm or deny these reports. Feel free to email on this issue, thanks

[nationwide]

Originally Posted by NewOldbie

I did a quick walkthrough of the local Cingular store this afternoon. Since I want an EDGE compatible phone I've been thinking about that list f1000 posted.

Of the 5, I'll most likely go with the Sony Ericsson s710 unless someone can point out a better phone. Would love to hear if there's any real advantage for a Class 10 over Class 4 (Motorola V551) phone.

The things we do for SPEED.

I not sure how accurate this is but from what i have read from various sources, nokia phones have a better reception than most sony phones, especially the nokia 6230 which can pick up signal good in weak areas and is also suppose to have the fasted download speeds to date(PC Magazine). i've been trying to get another comfirmation of these test but have been unlucky in doing so. i'll keep reading and keep you posted if i find any

[toneloco28]

Originally Posted by rancidbry

I've had been trying to connect for about 2 weeks now. I've tried all the scripts and all the dialing combinations. My computer or cell phone consistently disconnects at the authentications stage. The most popular configuration is what I've been trying the most:

script: Sony Ericsson 3G CID5
Telephone Number: wap.cingular
Account Name: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password: CINGULAR1

I'm trying to connect through my S710a with my Powerbook G4 15" running Tiger. I used to connect through AT&T using my T616 no problem. For some reason the change in service and upgrade in phone caused some huge problems.
What do you think the authentication problem is? Did you get your configuration to work. If so, how? Thanks so much.

http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2662607#
http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2662607#
http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2662607#

Same phone, same powerbook, same OS..

Script: Sony Ericsson 3G CID1
Telephone Number: "EMPTY"
Account Name:WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password: CINGULAR1

Are you able to connect to your phone normally using bluetooth, with the ability to transfer pics, ringers,etc? If so, then there might be an issue with your internet settings. I would suggest going to Sony Ericsson's site, and getting the WAP settings for Cingular sent to your phone. I had an issue before with my iBook, due to I'm guessing some erroneous setting, and this cleared it up. If this doesn't help, and you've exhausted all other possibilities, you may just have a lemon of a phone. Hope you get it working

[nationwide]

I just ran a speed test from speakeasy.com using my sony T616, this phone only has GPRS, no EDGE and my results were 40kps download and 10kbps uploads, i haven't done any adjustments what so ever. i just used the bluetooth set up assistant and in 3 minutes i'm surfing. i don't know what class GPRS my T616 is but if anybody know feel free to let me know.

[rancidbry]

What settings do you have on your T616? I have a S710a and a T616 both unlocked on Cingular and I can't get either of them to connect to the internet through my powerbook G4 15". These are my computer settings:

script: Sony Ericsson 3G CID 1
phone #: blank
login: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
password: CINGULAR1

This is like my 5th post on this forum in 2 weeks trying to get tethered. I used to do it no problem with my T616 through AT&T.
I have no problem syncing phone numbers and calendars and transferring files. Just the internet. The internet works fine on my phone, just not tethered. It disconnects at the authentication stage. I called Cingular (they don't support tethering, especially with a mac), I went to 2 apple stores and the Genuis bar was stumped, and I went to the sony ericsson web and had the GPRS settings set to my phone. NO LUCK.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY CREATIVE IDEAS FOR GETTING THIS INTERNET TO WORK, I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING! http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2671345#
I really like all the tweaking to achieve EDGE speeds. I will be doing that right away as soon as basic internet works at ANY speed.

Originally Posted by nationwide

I just ran a speed test from speakeasy.com using my sony T616, this phone only has GPRS, no EDGE and my results were 40kps download and 10kbps uploads, i haven't done any adjustments what so ever. i just used the bluetooth set up assistant and in 3 minutes i'm surfing. i don't know what class GPRS my T616 is but if anybody know feel free to let me know.

[nationwide]

Originally Posted by rancidbry

I have done everything on this forum to try and connect. I have a mac powerbook G4 15" runnign Tiger. I'm tried using these settings
number: blank, *99***2#, wap.cingular
account name: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
password: CINGULAR1
script: Sony Ericsson 3G CID1

It connects fine, but as soon as it reaches the authentication stage the computer and phone dissconect. Any creative suggestions?

In your network settings for ppp options be sure that the "send ecko packs" is unchecked

[nationwide]

Originally Posted by rancidbry

What settings do you have on your T616? I have a S710a and a T616 both unlocked on Cingular and I can't get either of them to connect to the internet through my powerbook G4 15". These are my computer settings:

script: Sony Ericsson 3G CID 1
phone #: blank
login: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
password: CINGULAR1

This is like my 5th post on this forum in 2 weeks trying to get tethered. I used to do it no problem with my T616 through AT&T.
I have no problem syncing phone numbers and calendars and transferring files. Just the internet. The internet works fine on my phone, just not tethered. It disconnects at the authentication stage. I called Cingular (they don't support tethering, especially with a mac), I went to 2 apple stores and the Genuis bar was stumped, and I went to the sony ericsson web and had the GPRS settings set to my phone. NO LUCK.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY CREATIVE IDEAS FOR GETTING THIS INTERNET TO WORK, I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING! http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php...ply&p=2671345#
I really like all the tweaking to achieve EDGE speeds. I will be doing that right away as soon as basic internet works at ANY speed.

Check this out, here are my settings, i have a older G3 PB, and a new G5 PM, i called cingular and got the GPRS string from them which is *99***1#, which i put in for the dail up number, next for username put in WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM this is case sensitive so it has to be in all caps, for the password CINGULAR1 again it needs to be in all caps you will not be able to connect if it's not all caps, and for the dns, just look up the ip address in your phone settings and put it here, if you can't find it you can use 66.209.10.201 from ross barkman's home page. and for the modem script i just used sony ericsson infared script, my G5 is running tiger and my G3 is running panther and these are the setting i have on both computers. be sure to turn off, send ecko packs in the ppp options as this will cause your computer to disconnect after a few minutes. hope this was helpful let me know it this worked, good luck
I also forgot to mention that with these settings i'm using my T616 to connect with my computers via bluetooth

[nationwide]

just wondering how your nokia was working with your new ibook? i just purchased my ibook this weekend but i haven't gotten my 6230 as of yet. i went to the cingular store the other day and they discontinued the damn phone!!!! what a shame!!!!! oh well i'll be looking online to see who has the better prices for one. i thought about getting the 6230i but it works on the 900mhz instead of the 850mhz and at&t used the 850mhz in my area which cingular now uses. thanx

Originally Posted by Krusty

Yes, I know about the BT, I actually use it fairly often and I typically only get a full day's use out of my phone when I use BT (vs 3 or so if I don't). The power was actually out for what I'm estimating to be over an hour (battery backup should have lasted about 40 min and I was home without power for a good 30 before I got around to posting on MacNN ... I was doing my emailings, etc for the first bit and actually took a phone call too before coming here). The power came on literally as I was hitting 'Post Quick Reply'.

On a side note, I was able to test my phone again yesterday in a part of town with solid full-bar reception on my phone. 127k was the absolute maximum I was able to get (it was solidly in the 115k - 125k range for most of the short tests I performed on the mspeed site I linked above). This is on a Class 10 EDGE device. Must just be the limits of the network in this area. Still, I'm happy with it ... its essentially 2-3x dial-up speeds anywhere for about the same as a "premium" dial-up account.

One final note, I DID buy the new laptop last week (stock iBook 12" which includes 512mb, BT 2.0, Airport Extreme, and a Core Graphics capable GPU). I was looking at a refurb 12" PB but the new iBook came with with all the wireless tech I wanted built-in, so I jumped on that during my state's Tax Free Weekend (still took Apple 10 days to get it shipped to me). I have a desktop, so I really wasn't looking for a powerhouse laptop .. just something very portable that i didn't have to BTO to get what I wanted for less than $1k. For the first time in my life, I really needed a laptop ... I'm a Property Manager (ex-Winblows programmer as of 2002) and due to my tech-oriented past have become the default go-to-guy for setting up our weekly vacation rental properties with high-speed wireless (as individual property owners decide to add it). The roughly 560 properties we manage are spread out across 2 islands with about 25 miles between the east edge of one island and the west edge of the other. Each time I go to set up a new router/modem combo, I have no clue what to expect as far as hardware type and brand that the individual owner purchased nor am I even guaranteed that the service is actually up and running at all until I get there. Basically, our owners buy cable or DSL at their discretion, get whatever modem the service provider is sending at the time and then buy whatever wireless router they feel like. The possible combinations of setups is virtually endless and requires tailoring the setup to whatever they have and *trying* to standardize the settings so that they will be easily supported in the future (so guests can just power-cycle and have everything working when it comes back up). Previously, I had difficulty scheduling the company laptop, had to provide my own wireless card and was sunk if I got to the property 15 miles from the office and found that it didn't work for some reason, requiring me to drive miles back to the office, seek out proper settings online for the specific hardware in the property, print out what I *hoped* was comprehensive instructions for getting the service/modem/router humming along nicely together, reschedule the laptop at a time I could get back in the property, etc. I wasted a heck of a lot of time (mostly on properties I don't even manage directly) for some pretty stupid reasons and the company laptop was a total piece o' shite Dell from the Win98 era that literally took 7-8 minutes to boot (into XP) and would randomly quit working properly for some reason requiring me to spend more time troubleshooting the machine than the wireless setup (or at the very least, a lengthy reboot cycle to get it working again). It was my own private little hell since this is something that normally takes me 5 or 10 minutes to do when I have decent equipment and the ability to research on-the-fly.

There ... I've vented about why this whole tethering + iBook thing is such a freakin' godsend for me

[adynaton]

After spending over 1.5 hours with Apple Care, numerous calls with Cingular, a call to Sony and "yadda yadda yadda" I came across this thread this afternoon after doing a Google search. After following--to the letter (except for the RMAC stuff) what f1000 recommended I have now connected to the internet wirelessly using my S710a as a modem. You've gotten this non-techy so excited I'm coming back to spend some more time and do some optimizing.
Thanks a lot,

John.

iBook G4, 1.42
Mac OS X 10.4.2
Sony Ericcson S710a, 3G CID1

[tangus999]

go to dsl reports and use the tools for speed to see how fast of a connection you have

f1000 after optimizign the ross script form what you posted i stil only get 50 max down....i have never hit above 100....
my aim name is tangus999 pm me and i am able to try anythgin you say so that we can figure out why the 710 doesn't want to break 100

[enentrup@mac.com]

Hey there...Running Tiger on my 12" PB with Cingular's MEdiaNet $19.99 plan on a V551.

Having the DANGEDEST time making sense of what I"m supposed to do with RMAC. I've downloaded and opened it, and I don't understand how to command it to make a startup script for me with your spec's. And although I'm comfortable in the Terminal, I don't know hwere to start to make the script any other way. I've read the entire thread and can only conclude that perhaps Tiger's different than Panther.

I've even installed BroadbandOptimizer.

Yet in the sysctl util I can't see a line for net.inet.tcp.slow.....anything. Plent of OTHER lines for TCP commands but NOT for slow connection or what have you.

I'm on iChat at enentrup@mac.com if you care to look me up! I'd like to get this resolved soon.

[seemilesrun]

Okay, so I've joined MacNN simply for this. I've tried everything I can to get my s710a to tether, just like everyone else I'm sure. It always seems to disconnect right at authentication. I tried the RMAC thing but that didn't help, also my phone will accept the BT connection from my G4 PB only some of the time, other times the PB simply states that no carrier has been detected. Can someone please help!!! Here are my stats:

Cingular w/ MediaNET Unlimited
SE s710a
12" PowerBook G4

[stalkingtiger]

I'm having the same problem as rancidbry, except w/ a Nokia 6682. Here's my ppp.log excerpt:

Tue Oct 4 20:22:02 2005 : Nokia 3G CID1
Tue Oct 4 20:22:04 2005 : Making network connection
Tue Oct 4 20:22:08 2005 : Serial connection established.
Tue Oct 4 20:22:08 2005 : Using interface ppp0
Tue Oct 4 20:22:08 2005 : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Modem
Tue Oct 4 20:22:10 2005 : PAP authentication succeeded
Tue Oct 4 20:22:40 2005 : IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Tue Oct 4 20:22:41 2005 : Connection terminated.
Tue Oct 4 20:22:46 2005 : Serial link disconnected.

(over and over and over again)

In any case, I believe that I have everything configured correctly. Could it be a problem w/ the script? Btw, I've tried CID2 and it doesn't even connect to the phone.

EDIT:
I'm using a PowerBook G4 17".