[boombashi]

Originally Posted by ravenz

Still nothing, over five hours later...I am going to call them tomorrow if I don't hear back.

Sorry to hear this, but I'm guessing this is just some vapor-ware from some scammers. I know you don't want to hear that, but judging from their web site design, they are some fly-by-night group. iEmulator.com seems to be another one of these sketchy groups illegally going against the open source license agreements and reselling it. It brings back the fond memories of Cherry OS that stole PEAR PC (which is free) and tried to re-sell it as their own. I assume this so called company is trying to "Sell" you an open source project that is already free called QEMU which is making some serious headway of getting their emulators ready for x86 Macs.

more info about the FREE QEMU - http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/

[ravenz]

Originally Posted by boombashi

Sorry to hear this, but I'm guessing this is just some vapor-ware from some scammers. I know you don't want to hear that, but judging from their web site design, they are some fly-by-night group. iEmulator.com seems to be another one of these sketchy groups illegally going against the open source license agreements and reselling it. It brings back the fond memories of Cherry OS that stole PEAR PC (which is free) and tried to re-sell it as their own. I assume this so called company is trying to "Sell" you an open source project that is already free called QEMU which is making some serious headway of getting their emulators ready for x86 Macs.

more info about the FREE QEMU - http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/

Actually, these guys were at Macworld Expo. I walked past their booth (I'm fairly certain). That said, the Fink founder doesn't like them. They aren't giving full credit to the people that do some of work to make their business viable, it seems. When it comes to my order, I just think they are disorganized and don't have the customer service thing figured out. eCommerce without email auto-acknowledgement is pretty lame. I have no record of my order right now.

http://fink.sourceforge.net/pr/openosx.php

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by boombashi

iEmulator.com seems to be another one of these sketchy groups illegally going against the open source license agreements and reselling it.

Don't insult people if you don't know what you're talking about.

Straight from the horse's mouth:

Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money?
Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.)

[boombashi]

Originally Posted by ravenz

Actually, these guys were at Macworld Expo. I walked past their booth (I'm fairly certain). That said, the Fink founder doesn't like them. I just think they are disorganized and don't have the customer service thing figured out. eCommerce without email auto-acknowledgement is pretty lame. I have no record of my order right now.

http://fink.sourceforge.net/pr/openosx.php

It's sad to say that being at a reputable trade show these days doesn't neccesarily mean that you have a reputable product - case in point the 6.8ghz Atom chip PC laptop and a 2TB laser harddrive the size of a CompactFlash card. These guys were at CES 2006 - http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page5.html and they claim their product is real. What about Phantom Gameing console, they are ACTUALLY a public company that was at E3 and they have no product to date - http://www.phantom.net/

I hope you get your product or at least your money back (take it up with your CC) but if they try to scam you, I really hope there is justice in this universe. There seems to be some much scamming going on with innocent people these days on the internet, it just makes me sick.

[boombashi]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Don't insult people if you don't know what you're talking about.

Straight from the horse's mouth:

your right "illegal" was the wrong word - I really meant unethical. Unless they are legit and they are providing something much more than what is open to the public. They are profiting on other peoples hard-work, and unless they have something real to add and are a legit business suporting their customers, then it is okay. afterall the underpinnings of OS X was based on open source platforms.

[Edit] One more thing, not that they have "officially" done this yet, but taking peoples money and not delivering a product IS illegal, it's commonly referred to as stealing

[jamil5454]

If I got scammed, I would register a domain, set up some simple hosting, and use a whole web site to blog about my experience. They wouldn't be around for much longer

[toddtmw]

Originally Posted by aorenny

Thanks a lot Todd. Can you make a new key and encrypt / decrypt some files. It install contexual menu items to do that also. Second thing I use is the encyrpted disk image, similar to OSX's dmg images. I don't care about Mail.app integration or ichat integration. File operations and disk operations are ctirial for me.

Again thanks a lot, I am so happy so far.

It doesn't seem to work. When I launch the PGP app, it presents a window with a padlock that says "Starting PGP" with a little spinner. The spinner spins and spins, but nothing happens. It never finishes getting "Started". I think this is one of the apps that DOESN'T work.

-Todd

[ravenz]

Originally Posted by boombashi

It's sad to say that being at a reputable trade show these days doesn't neccesarily mean that you have a reputable product - case in point the 6.8ghz Atom chip PC laptop and a 2TB laser harddrive the size of a CompactFlash card. These guys were at CES 2006 - http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page5.html and they claim their product is real. What about Phantom Gameing console, they are ACTUALLY a public company that was at E3 and they have no product to date - http://www.phantom.net/

I hope you get your product or at least your money back (take it up with your CC) but if they try to scam you, I really hope there is justice in this universe. There seems to be some much scamming going on with innocent people these days on the internet, it just makes me sick.

Those of us that purchased this software today in hopes of getting Windows working on the Intel iMac may be in for a rough road...

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/mo...edback&vid=All

openosxsucks.com and ihateopenosx.com are both available!

[fnj]

Nothing really useful to contribute here except to say that my 17" iMac iNtel just arrived - 2 days ealrier than Apple's estimate when I placed my order. So far so good!

[HouseSold]

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[HouseSold]

Originally Posted by fnj

Nothing really useful to contribute here except to say that my 17" iMac iNtel just arrived - 2 days ealrier than Apple's estimate when I placed my order. So far so good!

Share for all of us, the order date, date you were notified shipped and when you received it .

Also what configuration (memory, special configuration, etc)

Thanks and congrats.

Be sure to share experiences such as fan noise, temperature, speed and wireless reception strength.

[jtwiskowski]

I ordered Jan 10, 2006 at 10:57 AM PST according to Apple. And have had an estimated ship by date of Jan 18, 2006. Many people have ordered after me, yet have already received theirs. Mine is a CTO, but so were many others that shipped before mine.

I ordered...

iMac 20"
ATI Radeon X1600-256MB SDRAM
1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM-1x1GB
250GB Serial ATA drive
SuperDrive 8X
iWork '06
Keyboard & Mighty Mouse

Just thought I would let those waiting now, I am waiting as well!

[aorenny]

Originally Posted by toddtmw

It doesn't seem to work. When I launch the PGP app, it presents a window with a padlock that says "Starting PGP" with a little spinner. The spinner spins and spins, but nothing happens. It never finishes getting "Started". I think this is one of the apps that DOESN'T work.

-Todd

Bummer. Thanks for trying. Hopefully they will release an update for it.

[Farfarello]

Originally Posted by ravenz

Ok, more tests...

I attempted to boot the following operating systems all in three ways, boot with C key, boot with Option key, and attempt to select it from Startup Disk system preferences.

All tests FAILED.

Ubuntu 5.04 Live CD
Ubuntu 5.04 Install CD
Windows XP 2002 Edition Install CD
SUSE Linux 9.3 Professional Install DVD
SUSE Linux 9.3 Professional Install CD
Solaris 10 x86 03/05 Edition Install DVD
Solaris 10 x86 03/05 Edition Install CD
ParitionMagic 8.0 Install CD

The reality is, I'd prefer to run these OS'es in a virtual machine anyway and stay within Mac OS X. I think we're in a holding pattern now until VMWare or a similar solution is updated to support the iMac Intel.

A Problem with a virtual machine is for example that you can't start Apps that need 3D, like most of the Windows Games.

Maybe you can check if Windows Vista (beta) will work.

[fnj]

Originally Posted by HouseSold

Share for all of us, the order date, date you were notified shipped and when you received it .

Also what configuration (memory, special configuration, etc)

Thanks and congrats.

Be sure to share experiences such as fan noise, temperature, speed and wireless reception strength.

My configuration is as follows:

Graphics Card 065-6295 ATI Radeon X1600-128MB
SDRAM.
Memory 065-6194 1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM-2x512
Hard Drive 065-6158 160GB Serial ATA drive
Optical Drive 065-6159 SuperDrive 8x
Modem 065-6201 None
Apple Software Solutions 065-6200 None
MAC OS LANGUAGE 065-6163 WL Kybd-Mse & Mac OS X
Country Kit and BT/AP 065-6155 Country Kit

I live just outside of Washington, DC and I ordered on January 11. My order confirmation indicated an estimated arrival date of January 19. On the evening of January 15, I received a tracking number from Apple for FedEx. When I checked on the 16th, my order had shipped from Shanghai. I checked again yesterday morning before going to work and saw that the package had reached Anchorage, Alaska. Later yesterday morning, unbelievably, I received a call from my kids' nanny saying that I had a package!

It amazes me that the machine made it to me from Shanghai in less than 3 days (of course the time difference and crossing the international date line may have had something to do with that )

[fnj]

Sorry, forgot to add that I have only played with it for a few hours and I'm a switcher (yeah!), so I don't have any comparison data with the G5 for heat or noise. All I can say is that it is much quieter than my WinXP machine which I use to heat part of my home!

[slugslugslug]

Hey OP and others who have received their Intel iMacs: could you stop by this thread and post a list of which of your peripherals work/don't work?

[sebaz]

On here: http://digg.com/apple/Run_Windows_%2..._Native_Speed_

Somebdy details a way to get Windows and OSX to install and boot of a PC. Apparently OSX needs to be on the 2nd partition. Could it possibly work? Who knows..I'm just passing on the message

According to the install docs here that I used, MacOSX needs to be on the 2nd partition.

Here is what I did to dual-boot on a BIOS PC:

1) Boot off of the OSX DVD

2) Go into the Disk Utility

3) Delete all of the partitions on the drive

4) Created 2 partitions. Since this PC had a 20Gig "C" drive and an 80Gig "D" drive, I created the following partitions on C:

a) The first Patition I set to "Free Space" under the MacOS Instal Disk Utility.
The 2nd partition I set to MAC Journaled

5) Wrote the partitions, and then exited the Disk Utility back to the normal OSX install

6) Installed OSX to the 2nd partition (Mac Journaled)

7) When the install was finished, but BEFORE rebooting, I put in the Windows install CD (in your case I believe that you HAVE to have a Vista install disc since you are doing this with the EFI version)

Of course, step 7 assumes that the PC can boot off of the DVD Drive - simple enough to setup in BIOS. I have no clue as to how it works in EFI

8) Windows install starts. The partitions I think were listed as

a) unpartitioned space
Partition-1 (unknown)

either that or they were:

a) Partition-1 (unknown)
Partition-2 (unknown)

or something like that. This is from memory.

Actually, I believe that they were listed like the first example. Then I formatted the 1st partition using NTFS (quick)

9) When it was done I believe that the partition tables were presented to me as something like

E: Partition-1 (unknown)
C: Partition-2 (unknown)

I hit F3 to exit the setup and reboot the computer. The PC Rebooted off of the WinXP CD. When it asked for which partition to install windows on, the partition table was *again* displayed as:

E: Partition-1 (unknown)
C: Partition-2 (unknown)

10) Once again I hit F3 to exit and reboot the PC. Again it booted off of the WinXP CD. THIS time the partitions read like so:

C: NTFS
E: Partition-2 (unknown)

IIRC. Why it took 2 reboots to get this I don't know. But it did, so there... :-)

11) SO, I installed windows on the FIRST partition.

12) XP finishes copying install files, and then the setup reboots. Upon rebooting it boots off of the WinXP CD, and continues on with the full WinXP install.

13) After the full install is done, I believe it puts you right into windows (very ugly cause there are no video drivers in place). On another CD I burned a copy of the video drivers for the MB and a copy of Acronis Disk Director Suite. I installed both.

14) I ran Acronis's OS Selector. It scanned my disks and found 2 bootable OSes. The first was WindowsXP and the 2nd was unknown, so I renamed it MacOSx86

15) Once you run Acronis OS Selector it installs a bootloader onto the PC (like Grub), only the Acronis bootloader gives you a graphical boot menu, and it has many more boot options (if you leave a bootable CD-Rom in the drive it will recognize it and add it to it's boot menu for that boot. If you have a FW drive attached that is bootable, OS Selector will recognize that as well, add a menu choice for it, and allow you to boot from that). So at this point I instaled the video drivers and rebooted.

Upon bootup I get the Acronis OS Selector GUI. From there I can boot into WinXP or MacOSX. Both OSes seem to perform very well.

[ravenz]

Originally Posted by ravenz

Those of us that purchased this software today in hopes of getting Windows working on the Intel iMac may be in for a rough road...

I finally received my order for WinTel 2.0. I am dowloading now and hope to have screenshots of Windows running on my Intel iMac (although in a VM) sometime today.