Ok I just upgraded to a Geforce 4 Ti so I can use hardware rendering in Maya 5. So I now have my trusty Radeon 8500 64 meg 2x/4x agp for sale. Its the vga/dvi dual display version as well as S video out. I still have the box and most of the manuals/cds and even and the adaptors I think, need to look. I am also thowing in the cables/adaptors needed to hook up your mac to a RCA tv and have video and audio both work on yer TV for bigscreen gaming or video watching. these cost me about 30 bucks at radio shack for the cables and adaptors. Please email me if yer interested. It's all in mint condition and will be a year old on the 20th of may.