[Kenneth]

I'm wondering am I on the aggressive list or somthing? My post count is now stuck at 509. Why?

[Cipher13]

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=147169

510 now that you posted in "Feedback", and not just the Lounge.

[scaught]

Originally posted by Cipher13:
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=147169

510 now that you posted in "Feedback", and not just the Lounge.

oh. so they did do that already?

not much warning, eh?

[Montanan]

Well, I suspect that's going to get rid of some of the trolls and post whores ... but certainly not all of them.

And I suspect it will discourage a few of the "good" posters from participating, too.

[UNTeMac]

I don't think I agree with that. Perhaps they should categorize posts into 2 counts: General posts and Lounge posts. Don't just stop counting lounge posts.

[gorgonzola]

Originally posted by UNTiMac:
I don't think I agree with that. Perhaps they should categorize posts into 2 counts: General posts and Lounge posts. Don't just stop counting lounge posts.

That doesn't make any sense. Presumably all Lounge posts would be in the Lounge, and other posts would be elsewhere.

And no, no warning at all. I was curious to see how quickly someone would notice.

Quite frankly, if it discourages "good posters" from participating, they're not really good posters. It makes sense on a largely technical BB that the post count would merely be an indication of technical involvement, and if they're posting just to inflate their post counts...meh.

If hordes of people really hate it, of course, I can just flick a switch and back it goes. Not a huge deal. Just something I'm trying out.

[Kenneth]

Thanks for the replies... I don't think I'm a "bad boy" here.. but I will think twice before posting.

[agentz]

I for one don't like it - I'd much rather that there were no post counts whatsoever. Unfortunately post counts are the be all and end all for some people. Another forum that I use every day stopped counting posts in its equivalent of the lounge a while back. There was huge uproar on the boards and the mods said 'tough, thats the way its gonna be'. The upshot of this was a massive increase in random shite being posted all over the boards, topics going off on huge tangents all the time and whatnot, which in turn led to the mods having to put a lot more work into their moderation duties.

That was a 'largely technical BB' as well and a fair number of long term commited posters got so pis$ed off with all the trash that they left.

Not that I think that'd happen here. But it might - stranger things have happened. It'd be really sad to see crap like this happen here especially if it meant that a lot of the 'good' posters were to leave and go elsewhere.

[UNTeMac]

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
That doesn't make any sense. Presumably all Lounge posts would be in the Lounge, and other posts would be elsewhere.

I should have said Total instead of General. Just list right below a person's Total/General count their number of lounge posts. The lounge posts are included in the total.

There are a lot of people who post mostly in the lounge so why just not count their posts? I'm not sure what this is supposed to accomplish.

[gorgonzola]

Well, we're not married to it. If we get a bad vibe, it takes all of 15 seconds to switch it back. I think there's enough merit to the idea to try it out and see whether it affects the Lounge dynamic in a positive way, though.

I'm aware of the possibility of crap spreading elsewhere, but fear not -- we're committed to keeping the Lounge as a restricted garbage dump here, so post counts may be reenabled there if the behavior just moves out of the Lounge into other forums. That is the *last* thing that we want to happen.

Although oftentimes we question why we keep the Lounge around at all, we come back to one core motivation: the Lounge is largely necessary so that people have a place to post a little crap so it doesn't contaminate the technical forums where people are trying to get some support or information or have a discussion or somesuch. We want to keep it as such, and if we ultimately have to keep post counts on to keep the junk in there, then so it goes.

FWIW, I think the fact that there hasn't been a "huge uproar" here is a sign that we likely will not have the same problem as that other board. Also, Kenneth, you're not a 'bad boy'...the Lounge posts not counting thing applies to everyone. I haven't really made a big announcement about it because I wanted to keep it quiet and as I said, I was curious to see how quickly someone would notice.

Ooh, this is my 4444th post.

[starman]

Ah...I'm not sure this is a good idea. Just because I don't respond to every "what's wrong with my Mac?" thread doesn't mean my post count should stay the same.

Mike

[voodoo]

I think this will slow the Lounge down, for better or worse.

[l'ignorante]

Originally posted by voodoo:
I think this will slow the Lounge down, for better or worse.

It slows me down anyway; having to write a "ghost post" here everytime I post in the lounge, just to keep my count ( why is that so important ?...don't know, but it is...like the principle of 'ancienne')

[dencamp]

As a lurker who has been here longer than most of the 1000+ club, I kinda like the change. Perhaps even limit the +1 for+1 sake posts.

[jcadam]

Originally posted by dencamp:
As a lurker who has been here longer than most of the 1000+ club, I kinda like the change. Perhaps even limit the +1 for+1 sake posts.

jeez!!! 45 posts in nearly 3 years???!!!

Oh, +1

[Lerkfish]

(copied from the lounge)

Lerk simple'
Lerk SMASH things
Lerk done now.



heh.

anyways, like you(thunderous funker), I'm less concerned with the post count per se, but with the attitude that posting in the lounge is not worthy of being counted. For me, its not a problem as I already had a high post count, but As someone pointed out, then a newbie who only wants to post in the lounge would continually be judged by their low count....therefore, since the count conveys an implicit meaning (longevity or interest), but is inaccurate or downright misleading, It should probably be completely abolished.
Otherwise, the "perpetual newbies" will be unduly stigmatized by those who do things like stigmatize newbies and such.

my vote would be that either posts counts be completely eliminated, or completely accepted. Anything else is unduly discriminatory.

I have no problem losing mine, its not that important in the long run, but to selectively prohibited those who post predominantly in the lounge seems odd.

FWIW, I ONLY post in the lounge here. I hope that's ok with you mods.

[scaught]

i dont know about that lerk. why should people give in to those who would judge someone based on their post count?

if some bright spirit appears in the lounge with many good things to say, and not a high number of posts under their identity, anyone who decides they cant benefit from that persons words is truly silly.

[awaspaas]

What if the post count number includes lounge posts, but the star system is only based on non-lounge posts.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by scaught:
i dont know about that lerk. why should people give in to those who would judge someone based on their post count?

if some bright spirit appears in the lounge with many good things to say, and not a high number of posts under their identity, anyone who decides they cant benefit from that persons words is truly silly.

Agreed, but as I say, either eliminate post counts completely, no matter where one posts, or include them across the board. I have no problem with either solution. but to not include lounge posts seems an odd stance...almost as a discouragement to post in the lounge altogether.

[chris v]

Originally posted by gorgonzola:


Quite frankly, if it discourages "good posters" from participating, they're not really good posters. It makes sense on a largely technical BB that the post count would merely be an indication of technical involvement, and if they're posting just to inflate their post counts...meh.

I can deal with this. It's a well thought- out response, and heck, I'm addicted anyway.
Maxelson's never gonna make Clinically Insane now, wehich is a little bit sad, but hey, it's all just ones and zeroes, anyway.

Let's all go outside! Wait... it's too cold. Nix that.

CV

[MacGorilla]

I was surprised by the change but I think its good. Keep up the good work, admins

[voodoo]

Bad admins. Shame on you. Give us pur Lounge posts back.

<runs away>

[jcadam]

Ideas:

1. Just display the 'star rating' and hide the actual post count.

2. Just display everyone's post count in hex or octal instead of decimal. The less educated (that place a high importance on post count) won't be able to make sense of it.

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by jcadam:
Ideas:

1. Just display the 'star rating' and hide the actual post count.

2. Just display everyone's post count in hex or octal instead of decimal. The less educated (that place a high importance on post count) won't be able to make sense of it.

I'd thought about that before, actually. I'm all for octal post counts.

[driven]

Hmm ... posting in the feedback forum.

This could get interesting.