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Can you make the reply boxes as wide on Mac as they are on PC IE?
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Feb 9, 2004, 04:15 AM
 
Please!!!

The PC reply boxes are at least 50% wider than they are in any Mac browser. Can you change that??
     
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Feb 10, 2004, 04:34 AM
 
Hey yeah! How about it? Is it possible?
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Feb 10, 2004, 08:15 AM
 
It's not the forum software that is deciding that is it? I thought it was the way the browser is rendering the page...
     
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Feb 10, 2004, 10:08 AM
 
Originally posted by gorickey:
It's not the forum software that is deciding that is it? I thought it was the way the browser is rendering the page...
The size of the box must be set somewhere right

It's not just rendering is it?
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Feb 10, 2004, 10:15 PM
 
Originally posted by voodoo:
The size of the box must be set somewhere right

It's not just rendering is it?
Not sure; however, if they set it to be "bigger" then the boxes within IE on the PC are going to be way too big (I could careless, but others may not like that)?
     
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Feb 10, 2004, 10:18 PM
 
Originally posted by voodoo:
The size of the box must be set somewhere right

It's not just rendering is it?
It's defined as <textarea name="message" rows="20" cols="60" wrap="virtual" tabindex="2"> what translates to "make a box of the size 20 lines with 60 characters each". Now to determine the absolute width based on a proportional font is something the browser need to work around.
However if I count, I can enter about 80 characters per line and still have much room to the left and right of the box, but there are users with smaller browser.
It would be possible to change the size dynamically with javascript, but that will most likely cause trouble because the browsers behave too different there.

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Feb 11, 2004, 06:24 AM
 
In IE on PeeCee I can write 70 characters per line - indicating 70 colums (right?)
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Feb 11, 2004, 12:48 PM
 
I don't know how wide the textarea is on a PC, but why don't you just make it as wide as the table cell it's in? A simple
Code:
width="100%"
applied to the table it's nested in (which is in turn nested in a table cell - eugh) and a
Code:
style="width: 100%"
put in the textarea's tag.

That way it's always as wide as can be. Now, there's always the issue of fixed width layouts against liquid against elastic layouts, but at least this way the text box doesn't look like a little thing next to a lot of un-needed white space....

I don't know - the size of it never really bothered me, but applying this is trivial and allows me to type more on a line. Who know, it might even make benign stop pressing return to make every comment look like a poem...
     
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Feb 11, 2004, 06:22 PM
 
Originally posted by voodoo:
In IE on PeeCee I can write 70 characters per line - indicating 70 colums (right?)
Proportional or fixed-width font?
If fixed-width your browser probably determines the width depending on the surrounding font settings, if proportional, see above.

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Feb 11, 2004, 06:39 PM
 
Originally posted by Black Book:
I don't know how wide the textarea is on a PC, but why don't you just make it as wide as the table cell it's in? A simple
Code:
width="100%"
applied to the table it's nested in (which is in turn nested in a table cell - eugh) and a
Code:
style="width: 100%"
put in the textarea's tag.

That way it's always as wide as can be. Now, there's always the issue of fixed width layouts against liquid against elastic layouts, but at least this way the text box doesn't look like a little thing next to a lot of un-needed white space....
Yes, this would actually work (even without surrounding table) and should be pretty compatible.
I hereby propose to change it that way.
Originally posted by Black Book:
I don't know - the size of it never really bothered me, but applying this is trivial and allows me to type more on a line. Who know, it might even make benign stop pressing return to make every comment look like a poem...
It also didn't bother me. Very long lines might be not as easy to read, but I think that wouldn't bother me either.

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Feb 13, 2004, 06:17 AM
 
Originally posted by Black Book:
Who know, it might even make benign stop pressing return to make every comment look like a poem...
!!!

That should be reason enough, but I like your idea. This could work! Gzl please if you have the time could you take a look at this?
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Feb 13, 2004, 03:38 PM
 
Originally posted by Black Book:
Who know, it might even make benign stop pressing return to make every comment look like a poem...
I friggin hate when people do that! Just keep typing, dammit, the words will wrap themselves.

Im using Firebird on a PC, this line takes up the full width of the text box:

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 06:09 PM
 
Now the textarea should look the same on all browsers. For some reason, 100% width made the textarea smaller, but vB specifies the width in absolute values anyway, so this is easier to do. Also, the problem was not PC vs Mac but IE vs everything else. For some reason, the textarea width was set to something different for IE, and I imagine that on Macs, non-IE browsers are just far more common, so it looked like a platform issue. So it was a setting on our end that wasn't synced for some odd reason; the strangest part is that those were the default settings, apparently.

Anyway, I think 70 columns is MORE than wide enough, and it seems like this does the trick =)
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Feb 13, 2004, 06:31 PM
 
Originally posted by gorgonzola:
Anyway, I think 70 columns is MORE than wide enough, and it seems like this does the trick =)
Thank you! I greatly appreciate your efforts into this...
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 10:12 AM
 
Originally posted by gorgonzola:
Now the textarea should look the same on all browsers. For some reason, 100% width made the textarea smaller, but vB specifies the width in absolute values anyway, so this is easier to do. Also, the problem was not PC vs Mac but IE vs everything else. For some reason, the textarea width was set to something different for IE, and I imagine that on Macs, non-IE browsers are just far more common, so it looked like a platform issue. So it was a setting on our end that wasn't synced for some odd reason; the strangest part is that those were the default settings, apparently.

Anyway, I think 70 columns is MORE than wide enough, and it seems like this does the trick =)
THANK YOU GZL!!

It is totally awesomely great!! Very very nice. Exactly like it is on the PC IE

Thanks for the work you put into checking it out.
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Feb 14, 2004, 11:33 AM
 
i noticed it got bigger.
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 08:20 PM
 
Thanks gorgonzola. It is much better to post now.

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Feb 15, 2004, 11:42 AM
 
Sweeeet, It's bigger!

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