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Mac Elite
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Mar 1, 2004, 07:10 PM
 
Please remove vmarks from your group of moderators. I find his rabidly pro-Israeli comments tedious and unenlightening and wish to put him on my Ignore List, but am prevented from doing so due to him being a moderator. When a moderator cannot hold his own tongue and dominates threads through the posting of incendiary, contestable, and, as mentioned above, long winded material it is time for him to step down.

Example in point:

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=203742
     
Administrator
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Mar 1, 2004, 10:14 PM
 
he's not a mod of that forum.
he has no power there.
     
Posting Junkie
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Mar 1, 2004, 11:05 PM
 
Originally posted by Demonhood:
he has no power there.
Mods have power?

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Mac Elite
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Mar 2, 2004, 01:46 AM
 
Originally posted by Demonhood:
he's not a mod of that forum.
he has no power there.
but by being a mod (of any forum) he can't be added to ignore lists, which is all i ask.
     
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Mar 2, 2004, 01:51 AM
 
You don't have to read his posts, or read that forum.
However, I'd recommend reading what vmarks has to say. He has some good points, and explains it well. You stand to learn something even if you don't agree with it.
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Baninated
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Mar 2, 2004, 08:09 AM
 
Originally posted by spiky_dog:
I find his rabidly pro-Israeli comments tedious and unenlightening and wish to put him on my Ignore List, but am prevented from doing so due to him being a moderator.

Don't you have some goose-stepping to do?

Let go of the hate.
     
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Mar 2, 2004, 09:34 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:

Don't you have some goose-stepping to do?

Let go of the hate. [/B]
Well, that's not the point.

Apparently some people feel the urge to add him to his ignore list for one reason or another. Because he is a mod (in another forum) he cannot be added.

It doesn't matter what we think of that (personally, I don't use the ignore list feature at all, cause I can skip BS manually), but some people use it.

I don't think there is a solution to this problem, though.
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Baninated
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Mar 2, 2004, 10:42 PM
 
Why can't you just not read his posts when you see his name? Is it that hard?

I do that sometimes to certain people. But I have never had anyone on my ignore list.
     
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Mar 3, 2004, 12:24 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Why can't you just not read his posts when you see his name? Is it that hard?

I do that sometimes to certain people. But I have never had anyone on my ignore list.
because the posts are long and numerous, and it's my habit to use the ignore list early and often.
     
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Mar 3, 2004, 05:35 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Why can't you just not read his posts when you see his name? Is it that hard?

I do that sometimes to certain people. But I have never had anyone on my ignore list.
Again: on the use of the ignore list, I agree with you.

But still: there are some people who use it. And this is not a discussion pro-con ignore list.

Some people use this feature. But personally, I don't think this is technically possible since the ignore list works globally (right?), thus it would also exclude posts in forums that vmarks moderates.

Admins: is it technically possible to do what spikey wants?
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Mar 3, 2004, 06:29 AM
 
Originally posted by spiky_dog:
because the posts are long and numerous,

So you just can't skip past them cause of that? Come on..

and it's my habit to use the ignore list early and often.
Well I would suggest then that the problem is yours, and it's something you need to look into.

vmarks wont be losing his ops for obvious reasons. And I doubt you'll see a workaround.

Get used to ignoring manually.
     
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Mar 3, 2004, 09:24 AM
 
This thread is a joke. We all have the ability to scroll by posts we care not to read. But this is more than that, isn't it?

Here we have a moderator who is not only pro-Israel - he is also well spoken, he provides excellent documentation and sources for his positions, and he apparently had the eagerness to engage in debate on this topic.

This request is a blatant attempt to penalize, or remove from "power", someone who holds a position that others vehemently oppose. These opponents couldn't hold their intellectual ground in the debate, and the intra-thread smear attempts didn't make vmarks cower.

So here we are, with the opposition seeking to destroy whatever perceived priviledges vmarks may hold as a moderator.

So pathetic. Grow the heck up, people.
     
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Mar 3, 2004, 09:35 AM
 

So pathetic. Grow the heck up, people.
Yes, it's that transparent.

If you do not possess the ability to ignore said posts maybe internet forums aren't for you.
     
Mac Elite
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Mar 3, 2004, 12:28 PM
 
i don't care if he's a mod on other forums. he can remain mod there and i will care not a whit. my point is that his mod status there affects my use of the ignore list in a forum which he does not moderate. this has been stated several times. i don't wish to censor him, remove his power because he is too controversial and well spoken... that's a bunch of garbage that your groupthink produced on its own.

the technical explanation of "it's not possible with vBulletin to have mods on the ignore list, even as a special request" would be enough.

and i'm not going to justify my use of the ignore list to you, zimphire. just this: PLONK.
     
Mac Elite
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Mar 3, 2004, 12:32 PM
 
Originally posted by spacefreak:
These opponents couldn't hold their intellectual ground in the debate, and the intra-thread smear attempts didn't make vmarks cower.

So here we are, with the opposition seeking to destroy whatever perceived priviledges vmarks may hold as a moderator.

So pathetic. Grow the heck up, people.
you, too, are wrong. i hesitated from even reading the referenced thread, since its premise is abhorrent to me, and should be to anyone who is knowledgeable about the history and abuse of eugenics. but i thought there might be a shred of truth in it. vmarks comments, as noted above, were inflammatory and, more importantly, off-topic. "Boim is an idiot" iirc was the entire on-topic content. just as i ignore other off-topic posters (cash variants, john * smith or whatever his handle is), i wished to ignore him.

but believe what you want. you're not a mod either, and from your comments above i've read all i care to. PLONKx2.
     
Baninated
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Mar 3, 2004, 02:53 PM
 
The ignore list was put there for people that are being abusive. vmarks is not abusive.

Using the ignore list to put people on ignore that you just don't agree with shows signs of not only being insecure with your own beliefs. But that vmarks must have hit pretty close to the mark with his posts.

In other words, you are beating a dead horse.

Nothing will be changed. Learn to use your own built in ignore function or "suffer"

Your hissing and honking isn't going to accomplish much here I don't believe.

Not because the mods are jerks that are just doing it to make you mad, but because it's SO petty that it's probably not worth the time.

Not like they get payed to do this.
     
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Mar 3, 2004, 04:03 PM
 
i think we've discussed this enough.
     
   
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