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scaught · Apr 29, 2004, 12:49 PM

the threads are getting a little tiring. they always go the same place. it kinda reeks of the political threads that led to the creation of the political subforum.

Zimphire · Apr 29, 2004, 01:18 PM

It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have the same people, that really have no interest in religion other than to demean and bash it ruining it for everyone.

gorgonzola · Apr 29, 2004, 02:02 PM

maybe we could just merge this with the political forum.

gorickey · Apr 29, 2004, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
maybe we could just merge this with the political forum.

(I only give 2 thumbs to "must happen/great" ideas...)

Zimphire · Apr 29, 2004, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
maybe we could just merge this with the political forum.

Naw because some people don't want to deal with politics, but like to talk religion and vice versa.

The problems with the religion topics getting out of hand would be solved if the people who really care less about religion, other than to belittle would just stay out of them.

I don't like sports. I never have. But you'll never see me in a sports thread belittling people who DO like it.

That would be rude.

Putting religious topics in the PL would just make those religious topics even more heated and trollish. Which wouldn't solve anything.

MacNStein · 09:20 PM

If you guys start a Religion sub-forum, I can mod it for you.

Not to sound too egotisical, but I doubt there's too many people on this forum who know more about the subject than I do.

Logic · Apr 30, 2004, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
If you guys start a Religion sub-forum, I can mod it for you.

Not to sound too egotisical, but I doubt there's too many people on this forum who know about the subject than I do.

Even though we disagree on many things I agree with the above

I could as well mod it if it is done. Would perhaps be good to have someone in a different time-zone, and of a different religion as well.

But I'm all for a new religion forum. The threads about religions clutter both the lounge and the pol/war forum.

OH-N'omac · Apr 30, 2004, 10:43 PM

There aren't enough threads to warrant it...usually no more than one or two active at a time and these are clearly marked. They also add a lot more to the lounge than the endless +1 threads do.

The political lounge killed the mix of light and heavy that the old lounge had, keep sectioning off everything contriversial and before you know it you'll have to create a sub-lounge every time somebody decides they don't like the what other people talk about...better that people learn to either stay out of threads they don't want to read or learn to use their back button.

OreoCookie · Apr 30, 2004, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Naw because some people don't want to deal with politics, but like to talk religion and vice versa.

The problems with the religion topics getting out of hand would be solved if the people who really care less about religion, other than to belittle would just stay out of them.

I don't like sports. I never have. But you'll never see me in a sports thread belittling people who DO like it.

That would be rude.

Putting religious topics in the PL would just make those religious topics even more heated and trollish. Which wouldn't solve anything.

At least for you, it would be very convenient, since you wouldn't have to visit two forums, but instead just one.

Zimphire · Apr 30, 2004, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by OreoCookie:
At least for you, it would be very convenient, since you wouldn't have to visit two forums, but instead just one.

What do you mean? I visit many different forums.

el chupacabra · May 4, 2004, 05:31 PM

Religion discussion in the political lounge wouldn't be so bad if people weren't always getting banned or having the threads locked every time they posted something about religion.

Maybe we do need a religion forum, and it should be anything goes....no locking, no banning, it would be the thread of chaos and even though the people that think they are elite would criticize it, they would show up the most often.

voodoo · May 5, 2004, 05:30 AM

No, I think a religious subforum is unnecessary.

Just be nice to each other and don't pretend you're muslim when you're not and don't pretend you're christian when you're not and everyone will be a ok.

Zimphire · May 5, 2004, 08:45 AM

Who pretends they are Muslim or Christian? Esp in this forum..

dcolton · May 5, 2004, 11:48 AM

No religious forum. Don't feed Jesus to the Trolls.

Logic · May 5, 2004, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Who pretends they are Muslim or Christian? Esp in this forum..

Jihad on Tap.

Zimphire · May 5, 2004, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Logic:
Jihad on Tap.

Ah.. I don't really think he is actually trying to pass himself off as being religious.

Logic · May 5, 2004, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Ah.. I don't really think he is actually trying to pass himself off as being religious.

I know, but how long to you think it would take for someone doing the same but the Christian or Jewish version to be banned?

My guess, is about 10 minutes.

Can't understand why the mods allow this

Zimphire · May 5, 2004, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Logic:
I know, but how long to you think it would take for someone doing the same but the Christian or Jewish version to be banned?

My guess, is about 10 minutes.

Can't understand why the mods allow this

I've seen many "Jesus" "Jebus" and other sort of nicknames all the time. None are banned.

Not that I think they should.

I have even seen a "MorningStar"

philzilla · May 6, 2004, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I have even seen a "MorningStar"

i see those most mornings, but i don't cry about it unless i burn them

Zimphire · May 6, 2004, 09:14 AM

I hear MorningStar does a lot of burnings these days.

ghost_flash · May 18, 2004, 11:04 AM

There should be a forum just for religious discussions:

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...85#post1992085

zen jihad · May 18, 2004, 01:07 PM

Seems unnecessary to have one. Usually the religious talk is an off-shoot of some other topic, or a thread veering off-course.

Saying that though. What would a religious sub-forum be about? Would it be like the political one, in which we can kick the teeth out of others views? Might be a good idea then, since it would stop certain whiners from crying that they are being persecuted in here. Then we might see the end of people saying, 'but, but... he was the one who brought up the religious thing, we Christians never start thgose kind of arguments'.

It could be interesting, if there were more than a handful of people who had some knowledge of their religion. Then we could have intelligent arguments such as Biblical Errancy.

zen jihad · May 18, 2004, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Logic:
Jihad on Tap.

I nearly did when signing up. I thought of the name, Christ's Crotch.

Zimphire · 02:49 PM

Originally posted by zen jihad:
Might be a good idea then, since it would stop certain whiners from crying that they are being persecuted in here.

I have never read any thread in which the religious cried about being persecuted.

Not once.

Said threads were about respect, and the stopping of non-religious threads from being derailed by the religious haters.

I think ThinkInsane said it best when he said

This is a mac forum, first and foremost. If your opinions about religion are so strong that you just can't keep them to yourselves, then go find a venue that is better suited to the topic. I am sure their are many. If you can't abide by the rules, if you can't be respectful to others, then you aren't contributing anything of value to this community, and it's time for you to move on. This is stupid, and it's gone on far to long.

Indeed.

Wiskedjak · May 18, 2004, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by scaught:
the threads are getting a little tiring. they always go the same place. it kinda reeks of the political threads that led to the creation of the political subforum.

What would be the purpose or goal of such a subforum? I'd like to see a place where I can share my thoughts on the subject while learning from the more developed philosophies of others. But, I don't think there's a chance of it being anywhere near so civil.

zen jihad · May 18, 2004, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

I have never read any thread in which the religious cried about being persecuted.

Not once.
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I'm quite sure you know what I meant. So going by that, your next point makes it clear that certain people will make it known they are annoyed with anti-religious rhetoric. Thus, they do make it known they are, hence the persecution word.

Said threads were about respect, and the stopping of non-religious threads from being derailed by the religious haters.

Does that extend to threads on homosexuality? In which certain people will use the words, 'Paedophile, and gay', in the same sentence?

I think ThinkInsane said it best when he said

Indeed.

Selective quoting for what you want to hear. How about threads on Palestine? Gays? Muslims? Jews? The sensitivites of those people? You can't use TI's quote without applying it to yourself in regards to how you behave in the threads I listed above.

Zimphire · May 18, 2004, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by zen jihad:
I'm quite sure you know what I meant. So going by that, your next point makes it clear that certain people will make it known they are annoyed with anti-religious rhetoric. Thus, they do make it known they are, hence the persecution word.

My point is, feeling annoyed, and feeling persecuted is two different things.

Does that extend to threads on homosexuality? In which certain people will use the words, 'Paedophile, and gay', in the same sentence?

Depends, if they are calling homosexuals pedophiles then yes. If they aren't, then no. I sure hope you aren't so sensitive that just using the those two words in the SAME sentence makes you upset. That would be like me getting upset because someone used the word "God" and "Satan" in the same sentence. Even if they weren't meaning any negative connotations in the matter.

Selective quoting for what you want to hear. How about threads on Palestine? Gays? Muslims? Jews? The sensitivites of those people? You can't use TI's quote without applying it to yourself in regards to how you behave in the threads I listed above.

I was applying Tis quote to myself as well. And I agree.

BTW harsh criticism about Terrorists do not = Muslim bashing.