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Jun 7, 2005, 03:28 PM
 
Can we have a CPU forum or at least ask the mods not too be extremly zealous in closing/locking the threads in the PM forum. There seems to be more locked threads then open threads in the first page. This seems counter-productive as to why we have a forum here at maccnn.

The idea is to have a discussion on mac topics. I understand the need for discpline and order but the issue with Apple going to intel is a hot button topic and people have a variety of concerns and/or issues.

This is large and we all are entering into uncharted territoy it would be nice to post questions about it and not have them immediatly locked. I don't think this is a lounge type topic as it does relate to the hardware


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Jun 7, 2005, 03:31 PM
 
oops one more question

Why do some mods post reply to those threads only to have another mod lock it. It not like some of these threads are degenerating down to name calling(
That does happen a lot here but that's another topic for another day.).

The mods don't seem to have a clear cut guide or set of standards of when to lock it - at least it appears to me that way, i.e., some post and some lock.


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Jun 7, 2005, 05:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by Maflynn
oops one more question

Why do some mods post reply to those threads only to have another mod lock it. It not like some of these threads are degenerating down to name calling(
That does happen a lot here but that's another topic for another day.).

The mods don't seem to have a clear cut guide or set of standards of when to lock it - at least it appears to me that way, i.e., some post and some lock.


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This is no different than when Apple introduces brand new computers... everyone and their brother starts different threads, and it's chaos for a while, so the mods lock threads.

In a few weeks it won't matter any more, and threads can be started in the appropriate places once again.
     
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Jun 8, 2005, 06:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Person Man
This is no different than when Apple introduces brand new computers... everyone and their brother starts different threads, and it's chaos for a while, so the mods lock threads.

In a few weeks it won't matter any more, and threads can be started in the appropriate places once again.

Except this is different because they're locking threads in the PM forum when people are asking questions about cpu, design etc.

When Apple released a new computer they let a few threads live here they just locked them.

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Jun 8, 2005, 04:37 PM
 
No.
I was actually coming to post a request about locking more threads.

Lock almost all of them in the Lounge and any other forum so that only ones that survive are actually answerable or are general topic threads. There’s too much conjecture and speculating in most of these and having dozens of threads of this is useless. No one knows enough about how the implementation will work so if you want to talk about theory keep it contained.


Keep an “official” Intel CPU thread sticky for a couple weeks and the people who want to talk about these things can go back and forth without interfering with the legitimate topics which pertain to things that are actually in production

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Jun 9, 2005, 06:22 AM
 
Originally Posted by Captain Obvious
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Keep an “official” Intel CPU thread sticky for a couple weeks and the people who want to talk about these things can go back and forth without interfering with the legitimate topics which pertain to things that are actually in production
except if you have an "“official” Intel CPU thread sticky" thread it will quickly grow over 100+ posts. A thread that large is almost impossible to find any information. threads that large als seem to have a tendancy to get off tract, now the mods can redirect the posts and tell people to stay on topic but then you have the problem of parsing through that chaff to get to the actual information.

If you have a number of focused and specific threads then that makes sense. I agree if theres duplication or overlap one should get locked but what I saw most of the threads that had to deal with intel were locked except for one or two. Tooki I think started locking them because they were not a PM specific issue. I don't think its a lounge issue, so either create a hardware/cpu thread or let them go in the PM forum.

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Jun 9, 2005, 07:41 AM
 
Originally Posted by Captain Obvious
No.
I was actually coming to post a request about locking more threads.

Lock almost all of them in the Lounge and any other forum so that only ones that survive are actually answerable or are general topic threads. There’s too much conjecture and speculating in most of these and having dozens of threads of this is useless. No one knows enough about how the implementation will work so if you want to talk about theory keep it contained.


Keep an “official” Intel CPU thread sticky for a couple weeks and the people who want to talk about these things can go back and forth without interfering with the legitimate topics which pertain to things that are actually in production

For real, there are over 20 intel threads on the front page of the lounge alone right now. It doesn't matter what the title of the thread is, people are just stating the same thing over and over. Please, please, please, combine them all into one thread or make a temporary battlefront Apple/Intel forum.
     
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Jun 9, 2005, 02:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by Maflynn
except if you have an "“official” Intel CPU thread sticky" thread it will quickly grow over 100+ posts. A thread that large is almost impossible to find any information. threads that large als seem to have a tendancy to get off tract, now the mods can redirect the posts and tell people to stay on topic but then you have the problem of parsing through that chaff to get to the actual information.

So what?

If you want to talk about it look for the part of the discussion you are interested it and save the rest of us from having to see a dozen threads a day about the "Intel" shift that won't even happen for another year.
There is plenty of hardware and software out there now that can be addressed as well as other updates between now and then that won't have anything to do with Intel chips.

There is no actual information anyway. Most of the discussion is just conjecture. The CPU that Apple will use has not been made so whatever issues you want to talk about are really just hypothetical.

You don't need a new forum for this. Just keep the discussion contained to a small number of threads. The Mods are doing a horrible job letting so many pop up without pruning the fat.

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Jun 10, 2005, 01:53 PM
 
Very few of the Macintel threads belong in the hardware-specific forums because the discussion going on in them is not specific to any given Mac model. Such discussion goes in the lounge.

But even in the lounge, we don't need a gazillion threads, which is why we have been closing the superfluous ones.

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Jun 10, 2005, 03:09 PM
 
Perhaps then a forum for hardware issues that are independent (more or less) of model, for instance CPU, Combo/Super-Drives, etc. They don't go well in the various model-specific forums 'cause they're not model specific; they don't go well in Peripherals either, 'cause they're not peripherals, they came with (inside) your Mac; and they don't go well in the Lounge either, 'cause specific questions regarding your Mac and/or parts of it is not the point of the Lounge.

So perhaps in the Hardware section, there should be a “Hardware, not model-specific” forum as well?
     
   
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